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The Picture in the Bedroom

Postby EelStew » Nov 04, 2009 2:49 pm

In the upcoming movie, how do you think they will execute the scene were they go into Narnia?

I think that they will be in the room talking about how the picture looks so real, and then water will start rushing out of the picture frame. I doubt they will do it like the book, where they just got sucked into it. The walls of the bedroom would get sucked under the water, and they will be surrounded by the sea. While the walls are being sucked under, like the book, the picture will grow, and the frame will fall off into the water. Finally, all that is left is them in the sea with the Dawn Treader.

I think that would look cool. I know some of you Extreme Narnia Purists would attack me on that, but what are your opinions?
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Re: The Picture in the Bedroom

Postby Watziznehm » Nov 04, 2009 6:57 pm

I thought of this scene being different than that although your idea is pretty cool; it's kind of like the house sinks into the sea sort of speak. In my idea it will happen more like the book. In my idea they will be sitting looking at the picture talking about how it looks Narnian and all and suddenly the things in the picture will start to move; then, the wind will blow from the picture scattering all books and papers and such. When Eustace panics and suddenly tries to pull the picture off the wall the picture immediately the grows as big as the wall of the house and Eustace inadvertently runs out of the room and into the sea. The pevencies come to the edge of the picture to see what happened exactly when a gigantic wave comes shooting up to the picture. It throws them off balance and they go tumbling into the sea too.
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Re: The Picture in the Bedroom

Postby greenbird37 » Nov 04, 2009 10:05 pm

Exactly how the scene is in the book, is exactly how I see it to be. I hope that they stick to the book as much as possible, that would be cool! ;)
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Re: The Picture in the Bedroom

Postby glumPuddle » Nov 05, 2009 1:23 am

This is going to be tricky to visualize. I think the transition into Narnia will need to be kind of vague. Like the wardrobe, where you aren't quite sure exactly when the transition happens. All you know is, at some point they're in Narnia.
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Re: The Picture in the Bedroom

Postby icarus » Nov 05, 2009 12:47 pm

I think the transition into Narnia in VDT will have more in common with that seen in Prince Caspian than the one seen in LWW. i.e. it will be a big, dramatic, and somewhat violent transition, perhaps with lots of wind and waves interacting between the two worlds as many have suggested.

I also think however, that like Prince Caspian, they may very well have found a way to visualise the transition in a way that none of us would ever have considered simply from reading the book.
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Re: The Picture in the Bedroom

Postby ceppault » Nov 05, 2009 5:13 pm

I have a sneaking suspicion Lucy and Ed will have a good idea what is happening when it starts. Eustace, on the other hand, is going to be terrified.

I like the idea of the picture swallowing them. Quite right. I think it is going to be in a way we can't imagine. I loved the transition in PC.
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Re: The Picture in the Bedroom

Postby A_Narnian_Ship » Nov 06, 2009 12:32 pm

I sure hope they have them standing on the edge of the frame...I always thought that was so cool!!! I would love a shot of Lucy enjoying the breeze and the mist from the waves and than practically jumping into the picture. Haha, ceppault, I'm sure Eustace will be terrified! I can't wait to see him standing on deck looking around in vain for the picture! :p
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Re: The Picture in the Bedroom

Postby Lady Galadriel » Nov 06, 2009 9:10 pm

Like you all mention, I like the idea of a more discreet entrance into Narnia like LWW and PC. But I'm not certain how easy it would be. The picture growing bigger seems to be quite an abrupt entrance, and I'm not sure how the film people will embellish or change it!
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Re: The Picture in the Bedroom

Postby decarus » Nov 06, 2009 9:21 pm

I don't think i thought the entrance into Narnia in PC the film was discreet. I always sort of imagined water crashing into the room as the picture got bigger until they were out in the ocean and sort of panning towards the Dawn Treader with them in the water.

They could then show Caspian notice them and jump into the water to get pull them out.
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Re: The Picture in the Bedroom

Postby Lady Galadriel » Nov 06, 2009 10:22 pm

decarus wrote:I don't think i thought the entrance into Narnia in PC the film was discreet.


OK, perhaps bad terminology on my part. A roaring train is certainly not discreet. I mean that I never really noticed just when the Pevensies get into Narnia in either of the movies. You know, one moment 'we're still in England' the next moment, 'OK, we just switched.'
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Re: The Picture in the Bedroom

Postby narnialover101 » Nov 07, 2009 9:23 am

I like the idea of the waves splashing out of the frame, which I believe is even mentioned in the book. This is the way I see it: One of the waves crashes over top of them and engulfs them in water; they quickly swim to the surface and find they're in the ocean being assisted to the ship by Caspian. The part I can't see is how a wave splashing out of the frame wont look extremely strange and/or out of place, but I'm sure they could do it.

Overall I'm not really worried about it, I trust they'll come up with some clever way to do it.

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Re: The Picture in the Bedroom

Postby GlimGlum » Nov 07, 2009 12:30 pm

I would like this to be done as described in the book as much as possible. In the book, Professor Lewis says that either the picture grew larger or they (Eustace, Lucy, Edmund) got smaller. I always imagined both happening at the same time.

The wind blowing into the room, the ocean sounds, and the splashing waves with water coming into the room are things I would like to see and hear. Lucy, Edmund, and Eustace standing on the bottom edge of the frame and being swept into Narnia by a wave; yeah! :ymapplause: Plus, with CGI effects they should be able to get some really great angles of what is going on. B-)

I would leave room for enhancements or better ideas though. This is my favorite way of entering Narnia (from a reader/viewers perspective) so I want them to do the best job that they can and still be faithful to the overall concept in the book.
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Re: The Picture in the Bedroom

Postby Bother Eustace » Nov 09, 2009 2:34 pm

Whatever they choose to do, I'll be glad to see it if only to get the image of the BBC Voyage of the Dawn Treader transition out of my mind. In the BBC version, the trio pull a "Honey I shrunk the Pevensies and Scrubb", float up to the frame, and sort of wobble there for a moment before falling in; humorous to watch ;) , but just a little too silly looking. Of course it's great on the budget they had, but still...
I'd rather if they didn't shrink at all, but rather the picture itself does all of the size changing (I believe there was a little on both sides in the book). The idea of the room being torn to pieces around them by the buffeting waves and wind is cool, but perhaps a little bit too reminiscent of what happened in PC, minus the sea water.
An interesting thought came into my head just now, reading people's comments about the room being swallowed by the sea; perhaps they could have several waves of sea water splash into the room, nearly filling it, and the kids either swim through the now large picture in an attempt to save themselves or are sucked out by the current. That might be interesting.
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Re: The Picture in the Bedroom

Postby daughter of the King » Nov 09, 2009 3:00 pm

The first wave comes crashing in, soaking the kids. Eustace says he'll smash the picture as another wave comes in. Eustace dashes towards the picture in ankle-deep water. Edmund and Lucy run after Eustace as another wave comes in over their heads. They come up in the sea.
Almost exactly like NL101's idea.
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Re: The Picture in the Bedroom

Postby caboo29 » Nov 09, 2009 4:50 pm

Whatever they do, I think it's going to look pretty cool. Hopefully it'll get the audience hooked.

I myself am more partial to the wave coming and sucking them in as opposed to falling off the edge of the frame thing like in the bbc version.

Can't wait to see Scrubb's reaction to this. He's going to be such a great character for the humorous element of the book. Now, hopefully they won't find a need for cheesy, modern, lines to make the movie "funny".
Anyway... that's a whole other topic. Sorry...

So yeah, looking forward to this scene.
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Re: The Picture in the Bedroom

Postby H Tide » Nov 10, 2009 10:16 am

Or they could have a wave splash into the bedroom and the kids jump on the bed. Then the bedroom fills up with water and the bed is spun around them room and carried off onto the open sea! No wait...that's Jungle Jam and Friends... ;)

I have no idea how they'd film that scene...I'm always picturing the really cheesy BBC version of it, so that ruins it for me.
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