Episode 65: Teaser Trailer Discussion

Posted June 20, 2010 11:46 am by Rilian

Running time: 1:12
Rilian, Gymfan and Warrior4Jesus all get together to discuss the new teaser trailer. glumPuddle wasn’t able to join us to follow up with his thoughts on the previous (pre-teaser) episode. Unfortunately, this episode was recorded just before the breaking news of Reepicheep’s re-recasting came out, so that will be in a later episode. And as a side note, this is one of the funnier episodes, so hopefully this will make up for the length.
 

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  • icarus says:

    I don’t think we as Narnia fans should moan too much about the Dufflepuds looking ridiculous – that’s kinda the whole point about them! We should be glad they decided to so fully embrace the concept of the Dufflepuds exactly as they are in the book. I could easily see how they could of "reimagined" the dufflepuds to make them more "gritty" and "grounded in reality", but they didn’t. They just went for it completely, and bravo to them for doing so. πŸ™‚

    And the associated quote of "this just gets weirder and weirder" is 100% definitely Eustace. Not only given the context of the shot would it only make sense if he said it, but if you’ve ever watched any of the School of Comedy tv series, Will Poulter sounds exactly like that, particularly when doing a slightly odd comic voice.

    • Starlily says:

      I really like the Dufflepuds! πŸ™‚ They look quirky and colorful and energetic, just like they’re supposed to be. What’s wrong with them bouncing around so much? That’s just what I pictured them doing in the book! I think that once the visual effects are tweaked, they’ll look even better.

      Of course I’m still waiting to find out what their personalities will be like. I’ll be really bummed if they don’t all yell at once, "Keep it up, Chief! No one can say it better than you!" I always loved that. πŸ™‚

    • fantasia_kitty says:

      LOL icarus, I think that is definitely 100% NOT Eustace. LOL Guess we’ll see.

      • wolfloversk says:

        I’d agree with you FK.

      • Rilian says:

        Agreed. Not Eustace.

      • You_are_a_mouse says:

        Sorry, but what are you people thinking???
        Who else would say ‘this place just gets weirder and weirder’ OTHER than Eustace? It makes no sense for a dufflepud to say it, because they are one of the weird things in Narnia.
        And seriously, watch a clip from School of Comedy and listen to Will Poulter’s voice. It’s him, without a doubt.

  • Lady_Liln says:

    Good podcast! A few random thoughts on some of the things mentioned.

    I’ve also suspected them of sending Peter off to war for some time now. According to the timeline off of Wikipedia, VDT book takes place during 1942, still in war time, so that is not a change from the book. Peter going to war would be, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they do have him heading off to war, as Movie Peter is, what, 17-ish now? Not a stretch to push him to 18 and off fighting. . .

    Looking in the book again, Lewis does say the war years were "long ago" (yet it’s only been two years since LWW), so I guess it is sort of a change? Honestly, it doesn’t bother me that much. Though, I’d miss the little tie-in of Professor Kirke again.

    I thought the thing "blowing up" behind Aslan was just lush island (Aslan’s Country?) greenery, blending into some clouds. The shot’s kinda blurry already, so. . .

    I liked Reep’s shots, but he only has one line, which I honestly can’t tell if it’s new or "recycled" from PC.

    My idea for Rhindon glowing: Edmund’s (2nd) nightmare is that he’s accidentally stumbled into Middle Earth and has picked up Sting and is about to be attacked by orcs. (Hey, the Hobbit was published in 1937, so Edmund easily could have read it!) =P πŸ˜‰

    The four Pevensies: if not in a dream, then where? I thought Tony Nixon’s fan page had confirmed that Peter and Susan DO NOT make it back to Narnia?

  • Warrior 4 Jesus says:

    Sometimes it’s difficult to get in a word edgeways when there are 3 or more people podcasting together. Still, it was a lot of fun to do.

    Roger, I don’t have much of a problem with the White Witch, as long her role is very small and has added depth to Edmund’s temptation. I believe it’s his dreams coming back to haunt him. The White Witch is very dead. But the memories still haunt him.

    • Roger says:

      I agree with you. The point I want to make is that the White Witch’s brief appearance is consistent with Lewis’ beliefs and does not necessarily foretell the LotGK. Maybe yes or maybe not. It should be an interesting scene. Hopefully Edmond will conquer his fear of the White Witch.

  • wolfloversk says:

    Perhaps they aren’t showing the dragon shots because they’re not done yet.

    I’m not so sure anymore if Su and Pete are wearing Narnian clothes, they just look slightly different.

    Nice podcast.

  • Movie Aristotle says:

    Good discussion. I’m glad I’m not the only one who suspected that Peter would go to war.

    I’ve seen the trailer several times and I don’t think anything is blowing up behind Aslan at the end of the trailer. It’s just clouds.

  • Starlily says:

    Lol, I loved the "Lilliandil’s Island" part! (Just as a joke of course, though.) I’ll be upset if Ramandu is left out of the story, but if he is, I hope they can explain Lilliandil being all alone or whatever, without it sounding dumb. Because if they leave Ramandu out there will be quite a few loose ends they’ll have to tie up.

    Oh, there are so many questions and so few answers at this point.

  • narnia fan 7 says:

    Good podcast I really like the Dufflepuds I don’t think thay looking ridiculous I have a problem with the White Witch being in the Film I the name Lilliandil

  • Mark Sommer says:

    I didn’t find the trailer to be "thrown together" at all. I found it thoughtfully laid out and well organized. Yes, this wasn’t for fans, if you mean fans of the books. The purpose seems to be to appeal to the fans of the previous movies – especially the first one. (In fact, things from the second movie, with the exception of Reeepicheep, are avoided. They don’t even show Caspian’s face.)
    For my complete analysis of the trailer, see my article on Hollywood Jesus: http://live.hollywoodjesus.com/?p=5692

    • Anna's Sister says:

      They actually did show Caspian’s face for a split second. If you look at the screen caps you will see it. It’s the clip when Edmund says "If there isn’t a war than why are we here?" or something like that.:)

    • GlimGlum says:

      I am with Mr. Sommer on this. That is probably why I was pleased with the trailer overall (though not every little detail). πŸ™‚ And yes, I’m sure Mark realizes by now that King Caspian is briefly seen on the Dawn Treader.

      Interesting podathon guys and gal,:o despite my being on the other end of the opinion spectrum. πŸ˜€

  • King_Cor_the_Great says:

    this is my favorite podcast but Rilian brought me down and then Gymfan brought me up again

  • Mark Sommer says:

    And here’s justification for why Peter’s sword and Susan’s bow should have been brought on board (at least in the mind of the book Caspian, himself):
    Lucy…,"I think I really must go and see Eustace. Seasickness is horrid, you know. If I had my old cordial with me I could cure him."
    "But you have," said Caspian. "I’d quite forgotten about it. As you left it behind I thought it might be regarded as one of the royal treasures and so I brought it.."
    Chapter 2, p. 24 HarperTrophey 1994 paperback edition
    Caspian regarded the cordial as part or the royal treasures, not Lucy’s personal property. It is just ridiculous to me the the gifts cannot be used except by their original owners.

  • ernesto says:

    pero esta bien todo lo que dicen si y si

  • Anna's Sister says:

    This whole trailer is so confusing. I’ve never been a Narnian purist but some of the things that are hinted at in the trailer are kinda scary. Like the White Witch having green eyes? That doesn’t bode well for her not being the same witch as in the Silver chair.

    • chirpingbird says:

      She had green eyes in TLTWATW. There is a shot at the end of the battle where Aslan is about to swallow her or something like that, and she’s looking into the camera, and her eyes are REALLY green. This isn’t recent news.

  • ernesto says:

    mmmm esta bien la explicacion de lo que dijeron esos directores para la nueva pelicula de Narnia etc y haser el trailer de lo que dijeron ustedes etc.

  • Silver the Wanderer says:

    "After all, she’s a star in the sky and she’s been stalking Caspian." Ohhhhhhhhh you guys make me laugh πŸ˜›

    In regards to Peter and Susan being in the trailer, I think you are right in assuming that the trailer was not made for fans. See, I was watching Toy Story 3 with one of my friends sitting next to me. She’s not a Narniac like I am, but she’s seen LWW and PC. When the VDT trailer came on, we were watching shots of Edmund and Lucy when she turned and whispered to me, "Where’s Peter and Susan?" Obviously, she had forgotten that Peter and Susan were forbidden by Aslan to come back to Narnia. But then at the end of the trailer, she saw the shots of them and remarked, "Oh, there they are."

    I REALLY doubt that the shot of all the Pevensies doing their swagger-walks is going to be in the film. I mean, where would they put it? I think it’s a marketing thing – draw in all the people who have seen LWW and/or PC. After all, pretty much all the Narnia fans are going to see VDT anyway. It’s more important to advertise to the people who are not necessarily fans of the franchise.

    At least, that’s my opinion.

    • Rilian says:

      It’s possible. But then, the shot in Fellowship of the Ring of all the fellowship walking over the mountains was filmed for trailer use only as well. We’ll just have to see. I actually wonder if they’ll be in at the beginning or end in their English clothes.

  • Lillyput90 says:

    Great Podcast!!! I think the reason Aslan’s face changed in Prince Caspian from what it was in LWW was because they decided to make him look a little bit like Liam Neeson. That was what I thought anyway, if you look closely, you can see Liam Neeson’s facial structure in Aslan’s face. Whereas I would have prefered it if they had left him just a lion, not a lion with a human-ish face.

  • FriendOfNarnia2 says:

    We know that one of the biggest reasons Peter and Susan are in the film is simply for marketing. We also know that almost every movie has scenes in the trailer that don’t make it into the final film. Something makes me think that more than likely the scene of the four pevensies was made specifically for marketing purposes. I think Peter and Susan will still be in the film, but I think that while they were filming, they stuck on some Narnian clothes and shot this scene for the trailer.

  • DOECOG says:

    I’m a bit concerned about how they made RD/Lilliandil glow. How is that going to lend itself to SC. Is Rilian (the prince, not the host) going to glow too. That would mess up the part where Jill and Eustace don’t recognize him. Who would not recognize a glow-in-the-dark prince? Although that would come in handy living in a cave I guess.

  • glumpuddle says:

    This is a terrible trailer on almost single level. That does not mean the movie will be terrible.

  • Eustace+Jill says:

    I had two ideas I wanted to share.
    Many people are saying that they don’t know why The White Witch is there. But I was thinking, The Dark Island is a place where all your worst nightmares come true. Wouldn’t it make sense that Edmund would be having nightmares about temptation from The White Witch, or her returning, after all he’s been through concerning her? I think he would. And if he did, those nightmares would certainly come to life at The Dark Island. So even though it wasn’t in the book,it does, in a way, fit in, in a more realistic sense.
    The White Witch being dead wouldn’t make it any more difficult for her to appear at The Dark Island, since it’s a place where nightmares come true. There could be all sorts of dead things there — most likely there would be since most nightmares are about dead things, or things returning from the dead. Not only would there be dead things, but things that never lived in the first place — imaginary things the people on board had dreamed up themselves while they were sleeping. Anything can happen in a nightmare. And if the nightmares come true — the possibilities are endless. It’s no longer limited to what is usually physically possible. Instead, it’s limited to each person’s imagination which is, most likely, much broader. So someone’s death doesn’t necessarily have any bearing on what is or isn’t at the Dark Island.
    I think they made her eyes green, so as to begin to introduce her as The Emerald Witch of The Silver Chair. A lot of people will be disappointed if that happens. And I may be wrong. But I think it might be true, because a lot of people do believe she IS the Emerald Witch (myself included). One bad side of it is, that if she IS the Emerald Witch, Eustace will see her, messing up what originally hapenned in The Silver Chair when they meet her on her white horse and she gives them advice.
    I think that it may be possible, like I heard on the podcast, that the Pevensies could die at the end. It explains why they’d be there. Plus, while it shows them, Aslan’s voice says, "You’ve been brought here for a reason. Your journey begins now." I was wondering, what if the "journey" He’s talking about is their future in the afterlife? It would make sense, and, as much as I would hate to see it in the movie, it would tie it up nicely like you said. Especially since the final movie is so far away it might never get done.
    By the way, those bringing together of the seven swords — could that have anything to do with Rhindon glowing?
    I had another thought, this time about Lucy using Susan’s arrow. It was probably brought along as a relic. And Lucy probably HAS to use it, because it’s the closest weapon she can reach during some time of emergency. (Or it turns out to be the only thing that will be effective in some case, because of some magic we haven’t heard of yet) I also have a theory as to the emergency that causes her to grab the arrow. I saw a Youtube video of on the set of the movie, where a dragon is attacking the ship (Eustace?). And in the background of the video you can hear the director or whoever it is, yelling out to the actors and crewmembers what the dragon is doing. At one point, I believe I hear him say, "He’s been shot!" And that shot is probably from the arrow Lucy shoots. (Not fatally, of course, especially if it’s Eustace)
    By the way, that long scroll Coriakin rolls out — I think that’s the map he makes for Drinian before they leave. You know, the one that shows all that Drinian has seen with his own eyes?
    Another thing I noticed is this. First of all, there’s a picture of Eusatce looking through a hole right after Coriakin says, "You are all about to be tested." It would make sense that that’s the beginning of the dragon episode. He may be looking in at the treasure (or something else, if they’ve changed it). Plus it would make sense, since they purposely put it right after a mention of "Being tested". And that is where Eustace was tested after all. But I noticed two things which indicate that they strayed from the book again. While the Dufflepuds are jumping around Eustace, he looks very bratty and upset still — like the old Eustace — even though, in the books, he was already turned good by the time they reached The Island of the Voices. So they might have changed the order of that. Plus, in the corner of the picture where he is looking through that crack, you can see pillars — possibly of Coriakin’s house. Which, if I’m right, means that Eustace will be dragoned while at The Island of the Voices, and Dragon Island will either be where he is only UNdragoned instead, or just left out completely.
    My last idea is about the snow. In the book, Lucy reads a beautiful story that she loves so much, anything she likes after it is because it reminds her of the one she read in the Magician’s Book. Couldn’t they be making the snow a part of that "Beautiful Story"?
    Anyway, that’s my ideas. They could be completely off. But I thought I’d tell them anyway, in case they provide some clues.

    • Lady Galadriel says:

      Tilda Swinton’s eyes are naturally green. There are a few spots in LWW where this can be seen. Must be an editing error.

      You said about the Pevensies:
      "Plus, while it shows them, Aslan’s voice says, "You’ve been brought here for a reason. Your journey begins now." I was wondering, what if the "journey" He’s talking about is their future in the afterlife?"

      I don’t think that the Pevensies will die at the end. I doubt that Fox will try to end it as the Pevensie trilogy. In fact, I’m not sure this quote from Aslan actually is at the end. I think the quote corresponds perfectly with what Edmund asks Caspian in the trailer. "If there are no wars to fight, than why are we here?" But Aslan knows that they are there for a reason. Maybe he will have an early appearance where he will have the chance to say this.

      However, if the quote is at the end, I think it may have been inspired by this one (He says it on the last page of VDT): "This was the very reason why you were brought to Narnia, that by knowing me here for a little, you may know me better there." The Pevensies were brought to Narnia for a reason, in other words…which was to get to know Aslan better.

      I like a lot of your ideas. I think you’re probably right on quite a few points.

  • ana says:

    Please do another podcast soon it’s been a month and a half and a lot has happened for you guys to talk about….PLEASE

  • Clive Staples Sibelius says:

    Yes, it has been QUITE a while now since the last episode. And there are three clips and another trailer to talk about! And please bring Warrior back. He’s the best! πŸ™‚

    (Remember back in December when every new photo was reason for a podcast?!)

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