‘Silver Chair’ Plot Hints

Posted December 5, 2010 12:26 am by Glumpuddle

Most fans are still waiting to see the third Narnia film, but Michael Apted has already started dropping hints about what to expect in the fourth.

SFGate included this bit in a recent report:

“[Dawn Treader is] a rather difficult book to adapt – it doesn’t really have a central core to it. That really doesn’t work in a movie,” [Apted] says, explaining that they took a key story element from the next book, “The Silver Chair,” and seeded it in “Dawn Treader” – the idea of kidnappings in “Chair” became the thread to tie the films together.

Read the entire report here.

Why wait until The Voyage of the Dawn Treader comes out? Let the speculation on The Silver Chair begin now!

108 Comments For This Story

  • Nathan says:

    This is good. The Silver Chair should be made next.
    FIRST COMMENT!

  • Bookwyrm says:

    I wonder what their excuse will be for their changes to the SC plot?

    • Allalea says:

      Hey has anyone ever wondered why the green mist is green? Hint: maybe it’s for the lady of the GREEN kirtle

      • Not Of This World says:

        Wow! Nice thinking πŸ™‚

      • Mina says:

        Wasn’t the MLG’s mother captured or KIDNAPPED by the green mist? I always the mist looked snake like, but that could just be me.

      • NarnianHarper says:

        (thunks herself upside the head) Of course! And the White Witch/sea serpent = Lady of the Green Kirtle/serpent. But the kidnappings in VoDT are apparently for human sacrifice (?), whereas the kidnapping of Rilian is to lead the Green Witch’s underground army. Don’t see much of a connection there.

      • Samuel the Magnificent says:

        where did you hear they were for human sacrifices? You better no have already seen the movie and just now spoiled it for me.

      • Mayor Wilkins says:

        Nothing to back this up with.
        But maybe the human sacrifices (if they are human–I haven’t seen the film yet) are some kind of "payment" in order to reincarnate the White Witch as The Green Lady.

  • stateofgreen says:

    Still don’t agree that VDT is difficult to adapt. It’s a quest story. There’s pretty much a quest (something to accomplish against evil in every book). Maybe what he means it’s just that it’s hard to get a good script together that gets the story’s essence right? It isn’t a dull book and neither is The Silver Chair.

    • glumPuddle says:

      I have found that most of the time, when the filmmakers use words like"uncinematic," what they really mean is "not commercial."

      And when they say things like "difficult to adapt," what they really mean is "difficult to commercialize."

      They are trying to appeal to absolutely everybody on the planet, even the people who probably would not like the books.

      • Moonwood says:

        That is a very good observation ! Seeking to find / avenge banished Lords that cold have been his Father’s supporters, is not as ‘glitzy’ as flashing, glowing swords…

      • Paul T P says:

        The worst of it is, the ‘commercialism’ is obvious to most moviegoers, so the whole thing ends up reflecting badly on Lewis and Narnia as a whole. People aren’t going to watch a cliched plot about finding swords and go "well, by jove, I must read the books!"

      • Mangolite says:

        You hit it on the nail there glumPuddle. There had been some few movies that sticked to the book and it worked out wonderfully. It’s too bad that first it was Disney, and now, Fox is controlling what it must be before they invest into it. They want their money. I can understand that, but what makes the book special is it’s originality and not some generic thumb down exposition.

      • stateofgreen says:

        Yeah watered down for mass consumption. I do understand that. πŸ™‚ Too bad they can’t have one version for the masses and one version for the book fans. πŸ˜‰

      • Alambil and Tarvis says:

        I do agree with you about the "not commercial" point, but I would like to remind everyone who is being pessimistic that pretty much everyone who has seen the film (that I’ve read reactions/reviews from on here) has said it is the best of the 3 and that it best reflects the true spirit of Narnia, despite the plot changes.

        Not trying to shoot anyone down. I’m just pointing that out, because the overwhelming pessimism has been really getting to me lately. Not that I don’t have my doubts as well, but I’m just tired of people complaining about VDT without having seen it yet.

        And in terms of a film being "cinematic" or not, I definitely see the commercial aspect factoring into that, but as a person considering going into filmmaking, I can see how VDT would be at least a little bit difficult, merely from a technical standpoint. It is a quest story, but even as a child I thought it was somewhat strange that there wasn’t too much of a plotline driving it other than the search for the Lords. Not that I didn’t enjoy it–I love the book–but I just found it odd. And it is hard for filmmakers, especially the screenwriters, to make a cohesive script with a story that’s so episodic. It worked really well with the BBC version because it was a television miniseries and the episodic nature of the book lent itself really well to that medium. But when you’ve got a 2-hour linear time slot, you need to be able to tie in all the little "episodes" a bit more strongly than I thought they were in the book.

        But this is not to say that VDT is not an extremely difficult book to adapt to film, because it’s not. It’s a BIT of a challenge, but not insanely complicated.

        Anyway, I’m done now.

    • Reepicheep, Knight of Narnia says:

      Four of the seven books end with a battle. VDT is one of the three that don’t. Six of the seven books have a villian. VDT is the only one that doesn’t. In LB, Jewel says that the "children from beyond the end of the world" only come to Narnia when she is in distress. VDT contradicts that statement, though it is true for the rest of the books. In all the books, there is a mission to be completed, and only the children from our world (or Shasta and Aravis in HHB) can do so. One might note that this is because they have been chosen by Aslan. Also, a lot depends on if they succeed or if they fail. In VDT, however, there is no central villian to defeat. Caspian could look for the lost lords by himself without Edmund, Lucy, and Eustace. Furthermore, if they should fail in their quest, they’re still heroes because they have gone much farther than anyone else. I’m not quite sure that’s the story that will compete the intense, action-packed, good vs. evil fantasy movies of today, and if VDT is crushed by those movies, we shan’t have SC. Just my opinion, but I really can understand why Apted thinks this movie is so hard to make.

      • glumPuddle says:

        You make a lot of good observations on what makes VDT such a unique book. It works despite not resorting to the same old cliches and formulas. It doesn’t even have a villain and yet it works! Amazing story. It’s something totally different.

        Seems like the filmmakers are taking something unique and turning it into something we’ve seen a million times,

        You said: "I’m not quite sure that’s the story that will compete the intense, action-packed, good vs. evil fantasy movies of today, and if VDT is crushed by those movies, we shan’t have SC."

        …In other words "the material in the book is not easy to twist into a typical, cliche, formulaic, fantasy film." The filmmakers seem to be trying their best though.

        And if the approach they are taking to these books is to make them as formulaic as possible in order to make as much money as possible, I’m not sure I want to see SC.

      • Princess Anna says:

        glumPuddle is right, you have made some pretty good observations. However, I want to question just one thing.

        You wrote: In LB, Jewel says that the "children from beyond the end of the world" only come to Narnia when she is in distress. VDT contradicts that statement, though it is true for the rest of the books. In all the books, there is a mission to be completed, and only the children from our world (or Shasta and Aravis in HHB) can do so.

        Correct me if I’m wrong, but they WERE needed. Or, at least, Lu was. Isn’t she the only one that could have made the Duffers and Coriakin visible?

        And I know that Narnia wasn’t in distress, really. But it was a really crucial part of development for Eustace to go on that journey. In other words, Narnia didn’t need them… didn’t need Eustace. But by the Lion, Eustace sure needed Narnia… and more importantly, Aslan. Think how different his life might have been if not for that one first visit. He wouldn’t have helped Jill, and countless knows how many others. Would Tirian’s faith in the stories, and Aslan have been shaken badly… his last fight not how it was, if Eustace (and because of going with him in SC, Jill) wasn’t there to assist him?

        I guess this is one of those things like why most Nwebbers don’t like PC. "not enough action, etc" (is how I read some of the posts) But just because the "action" or the "mission" isn’t of great peril to the home, or creatures (on the outside)… doesn’t mean that their souls aren’t in danger. That the internal stuff they learn isn’t as important as the whole "saving the world" thing. If you ask me, Aslan saving Ed… Ed sticking up for Lu (and telling Eustace about Aslan)… Ed and Eustace both having their whole lives and perspectives changed. Those are the real important journeys. Think about it… Narnia, and our world will fade away. But the people? The lives touched? Or consider this… one person can make a difference, but if the difference isn’t made in them first… how can they help others? I know what a difference one person here and there have made in my own life, my own story. If not for them, my path would have been very different. That is why PC is my favourite. I’m not saying the worlds don’t need their help… that they should take a back seat just for ONE PERSON’s salvation. But, personally, the inner journeys mean more to me than the battles. Evil can hit you from any and all sides. and the tougher, in my opinion would be the inner battle. I’m not saying I’d love being in the front lines of a war.. I’d be terrified, and disgusted. I hate pain, but if it helped others I’d like to think I’d do what I had to. What scares me more is how it can strike at you from the inside. So, yeah. Sorry this is long winded, but Ed, Lu, and Eustace weren’t brought as just guests on a cruise type thing. It was what was needed. It was a growing up, and moving on lesson for the brother and sister. And a life changing beginning for the cousin. So, this time it wasn’t for the good of Narnia. Ok, that’s not always such a bad thing. πŸ˜‰

        (sorry for the long post. I just felt it needed saying. and it’s not just your post made me say it, I’ve been thinking on these things for quite some time. Thanks for your patience)

      • Samuel the Magnificent says:

        I agree with Reepicheep, Knight of Narnia. VoDT was a successful book. But the disorder and radomness of the plot would look bad on the big screen to those who had never read the book. I had never read a narnia book before seeing prince caspian and my friends and I loved it. The writers are trained to know what will sell and draw peoples attenting. So I trust them sometimes.

      • Reepicheep, Knight of Narnia says:

        My favorite thing about the Chronicles of Narnia is that whenever someone from our world goes to Narnia, it is for a dual purpose: Narnia needs them and they need Narnia. Yes, Edmund’s and Eustace’s transformations from bad to good are the most important part of the books. No argument there! Yet, the C.S. Lewis put a very clever formula into these stories, which contains and needs action plots. Essentially, by being needed, the main characters grow.
        However, the screenwriter for Narnia know their business better than I. They know better than I what people will want to watch. If they deem in necessary to change the storyline a little for it to sell, that’s fine with me. I’m glad to put up with a little green mist in order to see the other four wonderful books in the Chronicles of Narnia on screen.

  • Edson07bs says:

    I would hate them if they change the plot of the silver chair, it’s not fare… but I want the movie!!!

  • Rhys says:

    I think they’ll have a lot of trouble marketing The Silver Chair- it’s quite a dark and eerie book. Not really magical like VDT

    • Princess Lucy says:

      I know what you mean Rhys …i guess its dark due to the snake, the giants maybe and definitely the underground scene…oh yeah i forgot the scenes of liliandill and caspian dying is definitely tough for children to watch…but i hope somehow it does attract alot of audiences…i wonder how harry potter became successful…if parents let their children watch HP..then narnia should be their option too…besides its not as dark as HP…we will wait and see πŸ™‚

      • SGK474 says:

        The UK BBC version of Silver Chair was really good. Children will love the Owls and there’s a great scene with Aslan near the beginning. Puddleglum is a great character and the back story of ‘Lilandil’s’ death and the Prince’s disappearance was told like a flashback fairytale (but obviously as a real event in the story). Also you see Caspian in Aslan’s Country at the end. The Eustace Jill relationship is great too. I love the book – loads of scope for a great film πŸ™‚

      • stateofgreen says:

        I really think they should up the rating to PG-13, that might allow the dark stuff to be addressed without diluting for younger kids.

    • lucy suan peter and ed says:

      I so think that the most frighting book would be the last battle made me cry the 1st time I read it!!!!

    • Lewis Tolkien says:

      Honestly, it never really occurred to me that The Silver Chair is an especially darker story than the other Chronicles. When I first read the books as a child, I found the sacrifice of Aslan in the LWW more disturbing than anything that happens to Caspian or his wife in the SC, and I found the White Witch to be a more troubling character than the Lady of the Green Kirtle. Puddleglum is of course depressing in his outlook, but I mostly just found him amusing. Likewise, I simply found the cannibalistic giants entertaining and exciting when I was a child.

      At any rate, I think The Silver Chair would be a fairly easy film to market if they do it right. Giants, gnomes, a whole new imaginary world underground, a witch almost as interesting as the White Witch, a handsome young prince, a trek through the previously unseen North of Narnia, a new type of talking animal (owls), and of course Marshwiggles. To me, a witch, cannibalistic giants, gnomes, and strange Marshwiggles are more interestingly fantastical than the creatures we saw in PC (almost all of which we’d already seen in LWW).
      And, of course, all that snow will help them better market the film as a Christmas movie, and I think they have a real asset in Will Poulter as Eustace. Beyond this, the story is pretty straightforward, so it shouldn’t have to be adapted so much like they did with Dawn Treader.

      I’m looking forward to The Silver Chair, and I see no reason justified by the story why they should have a PG-13 rating for the movie. Even if they do make it somewhat darker, which would be fine if handled carefully, they needn’t loose the fantastical feel of the story (take Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire as an example of a somewhat dark but still very fantastical film).

  • Princess Lucy says:

    I guess its nice to connect the two films together…man I really hope VDT does well so we can all finally see SC, MN, HHB and LB on the big screen πŸ™‚

    • Princess Anna says:

      Ok, I’m a little confused. Yes, SC has never been brought to the big screen… but it had been made for television. By the BBC in the early 90’s, remember? It was their fourth and final installment (unless you count their PC and VDT as one, since they were jammed together. cutting out a LOT from PC).

      So, your remark puzzles me. Also, I don’t think ANY of the seven had been made as feature films (for the big screen) before Walden Media started this. Four of them were on tv (by the BBC, as I said. LWW, PC, VDT, and SC), and one was a cartoon film (LWW). But to my knowledge, that is it. Care to explain what you meant?

      But I agree with you wholeheartedly that VDT has to do well, so that they can continue til they have made all seven. My main, and possibly only, problem with the BBC versions, is that they stopped halfway through the series. I wanted to have visual representations of each story. So, if Walden made all seven… that would be a dream come true.

      • Princess Lucy says:

        Hehe Princess Anna…what I meant was I hope we can all see the rest of the films finally made with the advancement of technology but also good adaptions as well..and with MN, HHB and LB we all definitely excited to see them finally be adapted and made…and for SC like u said it has been made into tv series…but i am definitely excited to see the new version and i am sure all of yous are because simply because i hope they pick actors that are the same age as the character hopefully …and i think prince rilian in the tv series was a bit too old for the age..but the series is still done well…also i’m soo excited to see the actor that played eustrace in VDT in SC..sorry i wasn’t specific but I hope it helps and tell me if you disagree or agree πŸ™‚

  • Aslan's Country says:

    ..what ‘kidnappings’ in SC? Only Rilian and the gnomes from Bism, right? I’d hardly think that’s similar to what the kidnappings at the Lone Islands sound like they’re going to be.
    Blegh.. and I wanted SC to be unspoiled by the weirdness that is bound to be VDT. πŸ˜›

    • Silver the Wanderer says:

      Exactly my first thought – what kidnappings? I guess he’s talking about the gnomes, but as they were all underground to begin with, that took me a moment to realize. I just hope they aren’t kidnapping anyone from the surface.

      • Daniel James says:

        Obviously, we have a kidnapper in Narnia. So ya’ll need to hide yo’ kids, hide yo’ wife, hide yo’ husband, ’cause they’re kidnapping everyone out there!!

        I don’t know how many people will understand this quote, but it was so funny that I just had to do it. Look it up on Google if you don’t get it. πŸ˜‰

      • faunforaslan says:

        Good one!!! Love that video!!! πŸ˜€

      • glumPuddle says:

        DJ: Hahaha, my roommate got a kick out of that.

      • CoriaKing says:

        Haha, Hilarious!

      • lysander says:

        The only kidnapping I can think of that they may be referring to is that of Rillian — but that’s ONE kidnapping, whereas Apted uses that term in the plural. So, yeah … ?

      • The Archenlander says:

        bahahahhaha i love the song version of that! best youtube video ever!

  • Timo says:

    If they make the movie I’m happy.. Think it’s an interesting idea.

  • Reepicheep says:

    I just went to the Dawn Treader this afternoon and I thought it topped the whole series! Silver Chair is very film worthy as it is and it doesn’t need major changes. I can’t wait for the Sliver Chair after how amazing this one was.

    • Princess Lucy says:

      i’m glad u have enjoyed the film…u have made my day by increasing my excited hehhee…btw did u end up shedding tears at the end of the film…

  • rmm413 says:

    At least in The Silver Chair, I don’t think they will invent a whole new plot like in Dawn Treader. I would think that trying to find the kidnapped heir to the throne of Narnia would be a strong enough unifying theme for the movie without making up anything new.

    It looks like they are going to make the Queen’s underground army bigger than just Rilian and assorted gnomes, but hopefully that won’t really change the plot or any major events in the story.

  • decarus says:

    So this means they are going to connect the green mist and the LotGK. Interesting. I would rather this then just evil mist floating around. I wonder if there won’t be gnomes and instead will be kidnapped people working for the LotGK or they could just be discussing the kidnapping of the Prince.

    • Lewis Tolkien says:

      I have a pretty strong feeling that its going to be both gnomes and kidnapped people who are enchanted like Rilian. Knowing the moviemakers’ track record, I wouldn’t be surprised if there were also additional types of creatures in Bism beyond gnomes and people.

  • Louloudi the Centaur says:

    My biggest concern at the moment would probably be making the green mist LotGK. I mean what else could it be? Then again, making LotGk the WW would be much worse(film makers, do NOT get any ideas from this). However, even though things are maybe to change with filming for The Silver Chair, it turns out Tilda Swinton has a few roles she is busy with in 2011( which would maybe be the start of filming)leading to the chance she won’t be the LotGK, just maybe a cameo(not that I want that to happen).

  • Mayor Wilkins says:

    Hmmm hmmmm and hmmm again.

    Actually, I would have preferred The Green Mist being its own evil entity. I like that idea much better, actually. But I can see the connections to the Green Lady anyway.

    I’ll probably get attacked for this, but I really want Tilda Swinton to be the Green Lady. I love Tilda in these movies. She has such a captivating screen presence. That would be the coolest. And it would bring back Jadis (in some form), which I think is what many non-book fanatics have been hoping for since they’ve been teased in "Prince Caspian" and "The Voyage of the Dawn Treader" now. And anyway, neither Eustace nor Jill would know there was anything to worry about (they never met the White Witch), so it would be kind of like the Turkish Delight scene. What I mean is, when they meet the Green Lady the first time, the audience would know something was up, but Eustace would not. Like it was when Edmund met the Witch. This could be so good. I hope they adopt the "White Witch-Green Mist-Green Lady" theory, because that would be so good. And since the Witch has been coming back in small snipits in the past two movies, it would make sense she would finally be made whole again. Moviewise, I mean. πŸ˜‰

    • Mayor Wilkins says:

      Can I just add that I love that book cover up there. The Green Snake looks really neat in that depiction. πŸ˜‰ And oh how appropriate that it seems to have a foggy mist behind it and bits of green, misty tendrils coming off of its face? πŸ˜› Yep…. White Witch or not, it looks like The Green Mist will incarnate itself as the Green Lady come "Silver Chair."
      And if not Tilda Swinton, then might I suggest Cate Blanchett? They look so similar that it would be very possible for them to be "of the same crew." πŸ˜‰

    • lysander says:

      I love Tilda too, but don’t you understand what this will do? It will mislead even more people into thinking that LWW and LotGK are the same person. Sorry, but this is an awful idea (and not particularly original either, for that matter).

      Swinton and Blanchett are really too old for the role anyway.

    • thesithempire says:

      I’m a book-fan first, and even I agree that the Lady of the Green Kirtle works well as Jadis. I always suspected there was a connection when I first read the books, and cinematically, it makes the most sense. I don’t think it should be obvious, however. Tilday should be given a different look and characterization. It should be left ambiguous as to whether it’s actually Jadis. It could be a sister, or a weird aspect of the witch that survived and became this being.

      Either way, The Silver Chair is most definitely NOT a commercial, standard fantasy film for children. Even the BBC one is appropriately dark.

      But if Fox is going to insist that it be colorful and "magical" (damn that overused catchphrase), and geared for five year olds, they can choke on the ticket I would’ve bought.

      A lot is riding on not just the commercial success of this film, but on its success with viewers. "Nothing happens the same way twice," said Aslan in the adaptation of Prince Caspian, and yet Fox (a horrendous corporation) and the filmmakers have failed to comprehend that and are trying to replicate the commercial success of TLTWATW. It won’t happen.

      The Silver Chair, assuming it gets made, needs to follow in the heels of Spike Jones’ "Where the Wild Things Are," and dare to be unique, unsettling, grounded and powerful. And I wouldn’t complain a bit if Pixar decided to move into live-action films and bought the franchise from Fox.

  • Caspian says:

    Next thing we know, they’re going to say that Silver Chair was "hard to adapt to film". And then HHB, and then MN. It’s like filmmakers wouldn’t recognize a good story if it slapped them in the face! PEOPLE LIKED THE BOOKS FOR A REASON!

    • Ionic Bonding Rocks says:

      I completely agree!

    • Duffleglum says:

      You have a point Caspian.
      Do the producers have such little foresight as to not realize that the books are "poor cinematic" material according to some??
      Yet they make them into movies anyway, and because they stuck with the story so well in LWW, they made big $$.
      Now they are diverging, and hopes for a complete series are dwindling.

      *ahem*REMAKE*ahem*

  • Greg says:

    Silver Chair here we come! πŸ™‚ Maybe the Green Mist kidnapping wasn’t such a bad thing after all…

  • Noogah says:

    Now I think this quote is crazy. VOTDT is, in my humble opinion, is probably the most cinematic of all the Narnia films. It has adventure, action, friendship, good characters, and plenty of really cool places in it. There is also an atmosphere of epicness to it, and if you squint your eyes, a sliver of romance.

    It should would not have been hard to adapt, if they had just kept to the fantastic book that C.S Lewis wrote.

    To say that it isn’t cinematic is nonsense.

    To say "it doesn’t really have a central core to it." is pure absurdity.

  • sirsimon says:

    I dont know why, but I would love Rachel Weisz to play the lady, she has a perfect voice

  • pselpevensie says:

    hints already????? wow!!!!!

  • bachanon says:

    "jadis/jade/green lady/white witch"….as a kid i wondered if there were a connection. also, jadis enters narnia in magician’s nephew, right? i saw the vodt last month in a prescreening and loved it. i think the crux of the story is that life is a journey and everyone has a different cross to carry. the scenes of eustace, his journey, are spot on….very moving for me personally. i’m so excited to see it with nephews and nieces.

  • wolfloversk says:

    Oh don’t worry I’ve been speculating… and worrying…and celebrating…all at the same time for SC…add that to VDT and its a miracle my brain hasn’t melted yet.

  • bachanon says:

    also, at the last scene of the movie, when the kids are returned to eustace’s home, his mom calls from the other room….."jill pole is here to see you". as she is with eustace in the silver chair, i think that’s the direction they are going. i asked the guy from walden media which movie was next and he said he preferred "magician’s nephew", but he did not answer my question; he stated his personal preference.

    • Lucy says:

      Alberta says WHAT NOW? I’m sorry, I’m so stunned I don’t know if I find it totally awesome (because who doesn’t love a good Jill Pole reference?) or oddly out of place (because why would Jill go to visit Eustace before she knows that he’s changed)

      Anywho, does Eustace’s mother REALLY say that, or are you just pulling our legs?

      Now I’m even more curious about this movie and I didn’t think that was humanly possible, darn it!

      • bachanon says:

        jill and eustace simply go to school together. his transformation in narnia has nothing to do with his knowing jill in that world. i do not remember if they meet for the first time at school (in silver chair) or if they were already friends. either way, it’s a nice teaser to have that the last line in the film.

    • TrueNarnianWithWill says:

      I love that bit in the film!!! πŸ™‚

    • enchanted says:

      I could have sworn that Eustace was more of a bully than a friend to Jill before The Silver Chair (I haven’t read TSC in years, so I may be wrong).

      If they did change that, I wouldn’t freak out, but I really did prefer it the original way.

    • Princess Anna says:

      Careful, not everyone has seen the movie yet. (where I live, it won’t come out til friday. Or rather, thursday at midnight) I’d bet most haven’t. And although I’m not spoiler-free by any means, I would prefer to save some things til I’m watching it, to learn. I feel I’ve heard quite a bit of things, seen lots of pictures. I’d like to have SOMETHING that is a surprise. Don’t feel bad, though… what’s done is done. Just keep things like this in mind in the future, please. Thanks.

      P.S. Say it’s so, that’s odd. A neat plug for book fans, but weird. Like others have said, sure, they were schoolmates. But they weren’t friends til after he changed, and they were both targeted by the bullies. (if I’m remembering correctly, that is)

  • Swordebrithil12 says:

    OMG The Silver Chair is my absolute favorite book in this universe!!!! I’ve been waiting ever since I finished reading it for the movie. And yes, I saw the connection with the Green Mist and the Green Witch a.k.a. The Lady of the Green Kirtle. So kidnappings start here and they sort of continue in "The Book C.S. Lewis Didn’t Write", and the overall final defeat of the source of those kidnappings is in The Silver Chair.

  • narnian resident says:

    this is VERY interesting πŸ™‚
    i so hope they make Silver Chair. the story would make such a beautiful movie, i can just see it. Silver Chair is so daunting and exciting, it would be spectacular in film!

  • Shastafan says:

    Hmm, I don’t have much to say about this. It could be good, but could be bad. Attaching VDT and SC’s plot might work, or it might be really pathetic. This would explain the green mist, alright, and this could really affect SC’s plot. And I’m not too upset on the fact that the green mist and LotGK are attached, as long as the you-know-who witch isn’t involved in ANY way.

    I guess I’m still on VDT mode (four days!), but I’ll begin really worrying about SC’s changes when I get a better idea of what those changes are or might be. At least they’ve decided it’s SC they’re doing next, though! πŸ˜€

  • KingoftheWood says:

    I think one of the central themes in the silver chair is ‘obedience’ I can’t wait for that movie….hopefully they honor it and don’t butcher it. So far I don’t think they’ve butchered any of the movies. Wardrobe was a very good movie but I feel it missed greatness because the film makers didn’t develope Aslan enough. Prince Caspian butchered Peter’s character from the book but other than that it was also a very good flick. I am very concerned for Dawn Treader however. Hopefully after seeing the flick I will be pleasantly delighted.

  • Pepper Darcy says:

    well, that’s good news! πŸ˜€

    I’m guess by ‘uncenimatic’ when they say that, they mean that if you were to put that story on film it wouldn’t do as well because it doesn’t flow the way a movie should flow?

    Everyone says ‘uncenimatic’ about all the Narnia movies. PC wasn’t ‘cenimatic’ but it was more cenimatic than VotDT. I *agree* that DT wasn’t cenimatic because there isn’t a ‘climax’ and that’s what people who watch movies go for. It’s sad, really that they have to have this ‘high’ in a movie.

    But since people who haven’t read the book are going to look for a climax of some sort, I guess they had to do the best. 1. They can’t (obviously) rely on JUST the book fans to make this movie work (as far a finances go) I mean, they do need to get some profit out of it or they just wasted money; but they also have to reach out to people who *haven’t* read the books. That means for DT you had to have it stay true to the book for the fans (us Narniawebbers) πŸ™‚ And then you also had to give something that ‘makes’ sense to those who haven’t read the books. Because I’m afraid ‘just finding’ Lords wouldn’t ‘make a movie’ for people who haven’t read the books.

    It works for us book lovers and would as a movie, becasue we’ve loved Narnia all along and we’d be happy with that. But not everyone’s read the books so… I suppose they have to tweak it a little.

    I’m also guessing this means that it looks like LotGK is the WW? I can see how that was easy to confuse. But I’m fine either way πŸ™‚ New witch, or old one.

    I don’t think Lewis would have a cow either… he was so vauge on that so he’d have to forgive confusion πŸ™‚ It had me confused for nine years! and convinced LotGK=WW.

    • Pepper Darcy says:

      other than that, I am *SO* looking forward to SC!! πŸ˜€ It’s ALWAYS been my favourite book! πŸ™‚ I love it! And I’m so glad we have Will as Eustace. He’s delightful onscreen! πŸ™‚

      • Pepper Darcy says:

        and maybe sometimes when the flimmakers look at a story that looks different from *us* maybe it’s because that’s what they honestly thought that Lewis was trying to say? I mean, I’ll admit, I ‘translated’ some things about the books different from some of you all, but I still respet all of your views. People’s minds work different, so maybe that’s why there’s different adaptions because the director is looking at it differently?

        A donkey and a lion both look at a rabbit differently. One sees a ‘creature’ andother sees ‘food’ πŸ™‚

      • Mayor Wilkins says:

        I’m glad someone other than myself would be okay with the Green Lady being the White Witch because I think it is probably going to happen. If not, Jadis will probably show up in some other way–perhaps the Green Mist will be involved in "Silver Chair" too–

        I know the book doesn’t support White Witch = Green Lady theory. But it does not necessarily disprove the theory either. "One of the same crew" only vaguely suggests they are different people. It does not exactly spell out that "THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE." And anyway, perhaps the owls are confused. πŸ˜›
        Point is…. there are ways to justify it. And I think it is going to happen.

      • Pepper Darcy says:

        Yeah, well, don’t pat me on the back πŸ™‚ I just happen to have the same Narnia idea as you, and there’s hundreds of others who think differently about WW and LotGK πŸ™‚ And they’re entitled to that opinion πŸ™‚ I just need to be sure that I’m not being a jerk to anyone else if they don’t agree. I don’t mind if they think different πŸ˜‰ For heavens sake its a story πŸ™‚ They can think what they want about it πŸ™‚

      • Princess Lucy says:

        hehe Pepper Darcy …i like how u put ur words together….i’m one of the fans that don’t prefer the WW and the witch in SC be played by the same actress and i respect ur opinions…hehe…i guess when i read the books…i didn’t think they are the same character…i don’t know i just thought they were different in their behaviour, their ways of treating the heroes and what they want from them…hmmm i guess we will wait and see πŸ™‚

  • Twinimage says:

    Ok, I kind of see what they’re doing, but it’s annoying. A number of people who have reviewed this film so far have already complained that all the stuff the filmmakers have added to the story is confusing, unexplained or ambiguous. If SC can help make sense of that, then good for them.
    This doesn’t really seem like news, unless there’s more to this than I’m understanding. They’re trying to connect VDT and SC simply because VDT didn’t have good enough of a reason for the journey to happen, in their eyes. <_<
    I hope we get to see a SC movie. Can’t wait to see what they’ll screw up in that movie. It’s not what you’d call an action packed, epic story, at least in Hollywood’s perspective. πŸ˜›
    And how are they going to handle the climax with the snake? Especially since VDT’s "climax" is supposed to be with the sea serpent? Doesn’t really seem very perilous or epic in comparison, you know? I’m betting they’ll have some big underground battle for the climax.
    If only they’d stop trying to make these movies so commercial, and more original.

  • glumPuddle says:

    There Apted goes again, talking like the VDT book is just a bunch of random events that aren’t about anything.

    The central core of the VDT plot is the search for the lost lords. The central core, thematically, is the longing for one’s true home.

    • Pepper Darcy says:

      I’m really glad you’re around to point that Longing for One’s Home to us, because I never caught that before. I knew it about HaHB, but I didn’t ever think that about VotDT πŸ™‚ I should read it this week with that worldview in mind and enjoy it with that theme in mind. *runs off to find the nearest VotDT copy*

  • Queen Susan the Gentle says:

    I wonder (again) who will be Jill….. πŸ˜€

    • Princess Lucy says:

      Meeeeeeeee toooooooooo hehe….how do u imagine jill’s appearance…i always thought of her with a fringe runing across her forehead..and has that soft personality hehe πŸ™‚

  • Princess Lucy says:

    and i wonder which young actor will play rilian…hmmm

    • Gavin P says:

      MEEE!!! Hopefully!… Haha… but no, seriously though, I would love to go audition for that part… Rilian would be such an intense part to play… or should be.
      I think I am close to the right age for his character too… Maybe…

  • Daniel James says:

    Obviously, we have a kidnapper in Narnia. So ya’ll need to hide yo’ kids, hide yo’ wife, hide yo’ husband, ’cause they’re kidnapping everyone out there!!

    I don’t know how many people will understand this quote, but it was so funny that I just had to do it. Look it up on Google if you don’t get it. πŸ˜‰

  • Brandon says:

    I Wish they make this next,The perfect5 role for Puddleglum should be the films original Director Andrew Adamson seeming how he looks ALOT like the worrier and Tilda Swilton should be the lady of the green kirtle and if there grateful enough to do The Magicians nephew,MAKE HER JADIS!!!

  • Thyservant says:

    The serpent in HP should really pay a visit to SC…

  • Luis Daniel says:

    I SAW THE MOVIE TODAY IN THE pREMIERE HERE IN PUERTO RICO, LET ME TELL U FANS, THIS MOVIE IS TOTALLY AWSOME!! I STARTED TO CRY AT THE ENDING OF THE MOVIE, THE SEA SERPENT BATTLE IS AWSOME, THE VISUALS LOOK REAL!! WHEN THE MOVIE WAS OVER I WAS LIKE… I WANT MORE!!!! I WANNA SEE IT AGAIN!! THS MOVIE WONT DESAPOITN ANY ONE, IT HAS ALL THE IMPORTANT THEMES AND DETAILS THAT R IN THE BOOK!!! IM GOING TO SEE IT AGAIN FRIDAY!!! YEY!! GO NARNIA!!!!

  • Narnian Meerkat says:

    Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. . .

  • lucy suan peter and ed says:

    sooooooooooooooo cool going to see it Wednesday!!!!!!!

  • ~Blue skies~ says:

    I think most of us that have read the book series caught the "green" reference with the kidnapping mists as a foretelling of the LotGK.

    I’m going out a limb that they’re going to be giving a revenge story, (in defeating the "mist") for the LotGK against Caspian by killing his wife and seducing his only son.

    Again this is a very dark book, I hope they attempt to be a little bit more grounded in family entertainment as opposed to VoTD and dark enough to capture the story.

    The BBC adaption is beautiful. Rillian was played as a mixture of Hamlet in his madness and the Man in the Iron Mask, which was very affective and for me, the right way to go about playing the tortured Prince.

    Here’s hoping they get a very good actor in the role, because Rillian was meant to be at least thirty, so that does leave a window for some very good actors to play him.

    • Princess Lucy says:

      i never realise the witch in the silver chair seduces prince rilian…i seriously didn’t notice that…because i always wondered why exactly the witch kidnaps him..i guess i havn’t read the book for a year now but yh…

  • Narnia Friend says:

    Awesome! Way Cool! I love Narnia! The Silver Chair is one of my favorite Narnia books! I am looking forward to watching the movie! Wonderful!

  • Louise Gabrielle says:

    Yes, VDT isn’t the most easiest book to adapt unlike LWW and PC which were fairly straight-forward to make into a film and i can see why Michael Apted seeded the aspect/theme of stealing from the SC into VDT, But that dosen’t mean the SC won’t still have that aspect/theme to it, and that dosen’t mean it will be harder to make SC. The SC will be only not made if it dosent have enough numbers viewing VDT, which would result in a shortage of funds for SC and then and only then would it be more likely not to make the SC, and if they do have enough numbers for VDT, it is more than likely that SC will get the go-ahead….no matter what aspect/theme is taken away from the story, the story can always be ajusted and every story that is converted into a film is changed in somesort of way from the original story anyway…..there truely is no point in nink-picking on the film as long as it still has same point as the the book and in Narnia’s case the same magical feeling and there is no doubt in my mind that VDT will still be as amazing as it’s book and (if it gets the go-ahead)The SC will be the same.

  • Alaisdair says:

    after seeing Voyage twice now (sorry to rub it in hehe) the green mist DEFINITELY links the Lady Of The Green Kirtle in the Silver Chair along with the kidnappings you will understand when you see it πŸ™‚ For me the second time was SO much better and I will be going to see it as much as I can! Still cry everytime I see Aslan

  • Trufflehunter says:

    Is anyone else under the impression that Michael Apted will be directing the Silver Chair?

  • Paul_JT says:

    My own perspective of the (seemingly never-ending) White Witch/Lady of the Green Kirtle debate is to view it in a similar vein to Mr Darling/Captain Hook being played by the same actor in Peter Pan. It can be a tradition of the production – by accident or design. That is not to say there is no basis in the literature. Just as Barrie writes "all grown-ups are pirates" Lewis describes them β€œas one of the same crew”. A logical inference that in the eyes of Wendy/Narnians they see the former character in the later. To make the extra leap that they are the same character is Freudian interpretation IMHO. Tilda Swinton was an excellent White Witch. She would be an excellent Lady of the Green Kirtle. Voyage of the Dawn Treader is best film to date. Bring on The Silver Chair next please.

  • Gavin P says:

    Can Anyone tell me when and where the auditions for the Silver Chair will be held? I would love to go and audition for Prince Rilian! I loved the almost psycotic intensity his character gives off while under control of the snake lady and the silver chair.

  • falguni aleya shynchan says:

    the book the silver chair is good but intead of the lion the witch and the wardrobe the horse and boy shold be the first

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