Opinion: Sequel? Prequel? Reboot? What now?

NEWS DROUGHT ALERT!

In the middle of a news drought, fans have a tendency to let their imaginations run wild on what the future could hold. In this video, I embrace that tendency and examine possible routes Walden Media could take for a fourth Narnia film.

Outline:

1. Sequel: The Silver Chair

  • Fourth book to be published (1953)
  • Logical next chapter
  • Will Poulter’s age
  • Set up in Dawn Treader film

2. Prequel: The Magician’s Nephew

  • More popular book
  • Clear connection to the first film
  • The opportunity to give Tilda Swinton a prominent role again.

3. Reboot: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe

  • Start from scratch: New cast, new crew
  • Would need to be fundamentally different from Adamson’s version. (Animation? PG13?)

4. Reboot: The Magician’s Nephew

  • Re-cast Aslan and The White Witch

5. Prequel (to VDT): The Horse and His Boy

  • The Pevensies would likley be given bigger roles

6. Re-read the books! I have read each book a dozen times, and I’m still discovering new things.

How would you feel if Walden announced a LWW reboot? Scroll to the bottom of the homepage and vote now!

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NarniaCrazy
NarniaCrazy
14 years ago

Wow! I wish we had something new!!! But I agree, read the books and re-read them. There are goldmines in those books!!

In Aslan's Country
14 years ago
Reply to  NarniaCrazy

I think the best chance for the Narnia movies to survive is if they make The Magician's Nephew instead of The Silver Chair or if they do both at the same time with two different filmmakers for each movie. And also if they're both directed by directors like the director of the last three Harry Potter or the director of Pan's Labyrinth, than the the Narnia movies will back on track and maybe even be made better than ever before.

DaughterofAslan'scountry
DaughterofAslan'scountry
14 years ago

I agree that they need a really good director. I didn't Michael Apted was as good a director as Andrew Adamson. Michael Apted did'nt seem to have as great a passion for Narnia as Andrew Adamson.

Grace
14 years ago

Please do not redo Lion Witch and the Wardrobe. Many have completely fallen in love with the characters and cast that were already used. Aslan would not be Aslan any different. And Tilda Swinton does an excellent job as the Witch.

Otherwise any of the other movies sounds good to me. I love all of the Narnia books, but the Silver Chair and The Horse and His Boy are my favorites. Love the ones with the Pevensies.

I have loved all of the movies that have been made thus far, and I would feel very sad if the actors were changed. It just wouldn't feel the same.

In Aslan's Country
14 years ago
Reply to  glumPuddle

I just have to point ths out that I don't think the Narnia movies would be made any better if they were animated or turned into PG-13 movies,in fact I think it would be worse, I mean these are movies based off of popular children's books don't make PG-13 just because Harry Potter did it, be your own movie franchise, (if the franchise will continue that is hopefully)these movies should be made for kids.

Narnia101
Narnia101
14 years ago
Reply to  Grace

I really hope that they don't reboot I like the movies and the cast was perfect. I think that they should make The Silver Chair, Last Battle, Magicians Nephew, then Horse and His Boy.

I also don't think that they should make it animated, I can't see the Narnia films animated, or PG13, I mean Narnia was made as a children's fantasy but so it could be enjoyed for all ages, it should be made so that the whole family can sit down and watch a movie together without having to worry that one of their littles might wake up in the middle of the night because of a nightmare.

And I liked Andrew Adamson's version of the Narnia films better although I did like Michael Apted's version too, but it didn't have the same Narnia feel as the previous two. Even thought Prince CAspian was completely different then the book it felt like Narnia.

LOVENARNIA!99
LOVENARNIA!99
14 years ago
Reply to  Narnia101

I love the narnia movies they wrer great and many, many, many people including me fell in love with them, i don't think they would get many fans at all by making another narnia i mean that would be 3 DIFFERENT VERSION! they made some a long time ago and then they made these and these were great they were not perfect but they should NOT!!! make them again, reasons are
1. They were awesome movies but not perfect
they could have done better by following thebooks
2. The cast and crew did an excellent job!!!!!!!!!
3. many people including me fell inlove with the movies

just forget about the boos. yes i agree they could have done better, but they didn't! making another narnia just wouldn't be the same! if you had watched the movies and had not read the books you would love them movies! the books are great and there is nothing we can do about them not following the books!!!!! just watch the movies anbd forget about the books!!! you can'tr just remake thing 'casue they didn's follow the books that doesn't solve anything!!!!! just watch the movies!! i think they should just make all the books and then let people have their oppions, but i'm sure the directors did what they thought best, and well i think they should just make all the books then finish!

DaughterofAslan'scountry
DaughterofAslan'scountry
14 years ago
Reply to  Grace

I completely agree with you. I think that is the most loved movie of the series right now. I don't think making a PG-13 version would be good at all, because the story isn't even PG-13. I also find that many teenagers like the current version right now, and they don't think it's to kiddyish. The extended version of LWW also is a little more violent and scary, so there is so to say a little more adult version, but still mostly family friendly.

Marsh Waha
14 years ago

I agree that they should get a better director, I personally thought Andrew Adamson was great until after I saw Prince Caspian, what was he thinking? I mean lets face it clearly LWW was advertised in such a way, that made PC and VDT look like a joke. I mean there was a Collectors Edition, an Extended Edition. But Adamson never did an Extended Edition for PC and Apted never did an Extended Edition for VDT. So that doesn't make sense at all. Besides if they rebooted Narnia, I think they should have Peter Jackson do the Narnia films, or have Peter Jackson and Andrew Adamson direct all seven movies. The only real problem would be is what company along side Walden Media would want to make the films? Well if Disney did them again then Walden and Disney would have to come to an agreement on telling the story, and that it's not just about making money. Besides they should have made William, Anna, Skandar, Georgie, Ben and Will sign a contract that they would be available at such and such time and such dates to be available for shooting the films, they should have done that in the first place. I do think the story should be told in Chronological order or better yet do what the BBC company did, with PC and VDT combined them together, besides I would have loved it if Walden and Disney combined The Magician's Nephew and The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe together, I would have loved it if Walden and Disney and Fox had combined PC and VDT together as one, that to me just would have made more sense. Better yet why not put all seven movies together as one? That would be one hell of a movie to see. That is if they rebooted Narnia. oh one last thing I forgot to mention, I personally feel that one Director for all seven movies would make sense. But I would be really happy if both Peter Jackson and Andrew Adamson did this together. They are my favorite directors after all.

Marsh Waha
14 years ago

I also forgot to mention that Andrew Adamson failed to make a Digital Copy of The Lion,The Witch and the Wardrobe forgot to point that out.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago

My problem with Peter Jackson is that he would try to turn Narnia into LotR, which it is not. In fact a complaint that critics have made about some of his non-LotR book adaptations was that he made them "epic" when they weren't meant to be. Not only that, but Adamson was clearly trying to do that with PC and it didn't work.

Marsh Waha
14 years ago

Yes Epic but not in a LOTR way, in a Narnia way. Look I don't believe Peter Jackson if he is chosen would ever try to turn something Lewis wrote into something Tolkien like. You have to remember Tolkien and Lewis were friends. When Tolkien wrote Lord of the Rings he read it to Lewis, when Lewis wrote Chronicles of Narnia he read the books to Tolkien. I think Adamson just wanted to make Caspian exciting, I don't think he seriously meant to copy Jackson at all. I mean he got some of it right but in the wrong way. Besides the deleted scenes with the romance between Susan and Caspian were something that was never in the book. I am not sure why Adamson never did an extended edition of Caspian. But something tells me Adamson seem to think that he couldn't make PC as big of a hit as he did with LWW. Again I still agree with the idea of putting all seven books into one giant movie. Though I have another thought, Speaking of Peter Jackson and Lord of the Rings, he is making The Hobbit into two parts, I can see why one might split the Narnia movies into two parts that only makes sense. I know the books are not very long but if it were rebooted then I can see why that might be a possibility. At this point its hard to say. I still agree with the idea of having all seven in one, or they could do what they did with the last Harry Potter book and do that with the Last Battle and split it into two movies. That would make sense besides I can see why they would do that for the last movie or do it for SC, MN, HHB,LB. Besides why do it for one when you could do it for all of them? Right? Its a thought, again I am just being open with ideas, besides you never know, Peter Jackson might not be a bad choice. You really never know.

farsight-mssngr
farsight-mssngr
14 years ago

Well, actually in my own opinion, I would rather see The Magician's Nephew next, then followed up by The Horse and His Boy, then The Silver Chair and finally, The Last Battle. Why? These are my reasons:
1. The Magician's Nephew next 'cause-It's the second most sold Narnia book.
-It's more magical and it has a very big relation from the Bible cause it talks about the creation.
2. The Silver Chair-Why not the next? 'cause if it flops in the box office, it's the end. Not just talking about Will Poulter's age but the popularity of the books. the big problem is-Will Poulter will get too old. But it's better if they will make SC then LB.
3. If they will reboot the series, it will not get even better. New cast? new productions? all new? Then we're just saying that Narnia LWW, PC, VDT from Walden Media wasn't good at all. The Pevensie's (Moseley, Henley, Keynes, Popplewell, Poulter) acting are very great and they have all great acting skills and they are all loved so much by many fans. As for the production, it's better if they will just return the LWW's prodution team.
4. All set! But the final decision will be from Walden and 20th Century FOX.
Note: Whatever the case, we just need to support their decisions (Just NOT REBOOT NARNIA!).
-And this is my own opinion. I do not want to harm anyone.
-Let's make Narnia 4 the best!

lysander
lysander
14 years ago

Poulter did not play a Pevensie. He played a Scrubb!

farsight-mssngr
farsight-mssngr
14 years ago
Reply to  lysander

Yes of course, I know that Will Poulter plays Eustace Clarence Scrubb. What I mean in the Pevensies, that he is their cousin. Sorry for lack of info. But Will Poulter plays a great role for Eustace Scrubb.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  lysander

Im not too excited about this for many reasons. 1, if they recast the white witch and aslan, i think a lot of people(including myself) would really hate it. 2, i dont know how an animated Narnia would fare. I think they just need to push through, and go to the next book, because of Poulters age.

gn
gn
14 years ago

If you're worried about the next movie being a box office flop, then I wouldn't choose as the next movie one whose source material would force drastic, drastic rewriting in order to make it "cinematic" and fit the mega-action-movie mold they've trapped themselves in. As we've seen, there's no quicker way to guarantee a box office flop and to discredit the books than to produce Hollywoood drek very loosely based upon them.
"The Silver Chair" could at least end with a huge battle between the Narnians and the Gnomes emerging from underground. Do I hate this idea? Yes. Anyone else who hates it should probably stop advising "The Magician's Nephew" given what Walden insists on doing with these stories and what the public has been led to expect.
Would I love to see a faithful MN movie made? Yes – it hasn't been done yet. Do I think there's one chance in a thousand of Walden making a faithful version? Seriously – do ANY of you?
I hate to keep harping on this point, but I wish someone would address it. If I'm wrong (and I would love to be), show me where I'm wrong.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  gn

Honestly, I think the fight with the Witch-turned-Snake provides all of the climactic action they need for their proscribed fantasy-action formula, provided they make her big and imposing (as opposed to the BBC version). In the climax of VDT, they felt one sea serpent was enough.

farsight-mssngr
farsight-mssngr
14 years ago
Reply to  gn

I know your point. Really interesting. Me as well wanted to see The Silver Chair next.

NarnianHarper
NarnianHarper
14 years ago

What needs a serious reboot are the script writers – the last two movies bombed because of their tampering with the original storylines and characters. I really hope Walden fires the lot and hires writers that remain true to the spirit and content of the books (like the Harry Potter franchise). And my vote is The Silver Chair – no one can do a better Eustace than Will Poulter!

High Queene Shelly Belly
High Queene Shelly Belly
14 years ago
Reply to  NarnianHarper

those screenwriteers submitted a faithful script for VDT and the CS Lewis estate powers that be rejected it for not being "exciting enough". makes me wonder what's going on over there. : /

Eviliini
Eviliini
14 years ago
Reply to  NarnianHarper

Maybe something good will come out of the disaster that was Dawn Treader. Walden may realise that, since all the changes didn't help VoDT's box office. In stead of trying to attract the wider audience with a generic adventure flick they could make something really special out of these amazing books. One can always hope, right? 😉

farsight-mssngr
farsight-mssngr
14 years ago
Reply to  glumPuddle

@glumpuddle
What do you mean about my comment?
Is it insulting or something? just please tell what is on your mind from my comment.
sorry if I have a wrong english though

farsight-mssngr
farsight-mssngr
14 years ago

Thanks glumpuddle for your appreciation.
(For posting) Anytime!

tangentreality
14 years ago

I would prefer them to make 'The Silver Chair' next. It's got good potential – it's a logical progression from 'Dawn Treader', concluding the Pevensie arc and retaining Eustace, but it's also got good potential to have a darker, more menacing tone – which, let's face it, has pulled in the crowds with Harry Potter, as well as the new Batman films.

Furthermore, there is potential for Tilda Swinton to be involved – the Green Witch/White Witch conundrum. Are they the same person? Again, 'Dawn Treader' seemed to pick up on this by casting Jadis in a green pall.

WriterFreak101
WriterFreak101
14 years ago
Reply to  tangentreality

The Lady of the Green Kirtle, a.k.a the Emerald Witch, is not the White Witch in a sense you would think. While she may be an incarnation of the White Witch's spirit or something along those lines, they are definitely not the same person, at least, physical person. If they make SC next then they will have to get a new actor. Besides, the BBC verison used the same woman who played the White Witch to play the Lady of the Green Kirtle. If the movies choose to use Tilda, it won't be "original."

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  WriterFreak101

I dont even think that the Lady of the Green Kirtle is an incarnation of the white witch, but i think both of them might have something to do with Charn. And yes, i know that all life on charn was desrtroyed by the deplorable word, and therefore it would support the claim that the White Witch is is the same as the Lady of the Green Kirtle. But that is not my point, the parliament of owels think that they are "of the same crew". So that may leave a lot of speculation to wich witch is wich if you see what i mean. I think Lewis meant for it to be that way because he left a lot of things to be a product of your imagination, he didnt always explain things, he let you use your imagination to create the origins of it or to think of it. Like in one of the versions of LWW, he mentioned that the deep magic was written in three different locations, the world ash tree, the emporer over the seas scepter, and the secret hill, which I think he mentioned it for no reseon in particular other then to let your imagination run wild. So, I think it would be very interesting to see what his purpose for the Lady of the Green Kirtle really was, but in my opinion he left it up to you to think of the reason behind her. But then again, it actually might be the wihte witch because, in the book she ran away to the north, instead of getting eaten by aslan (like in LWWW movie version). And the underworld is to the north, so we really dont know, because CS Lewis left it up to us to figure it out.

WriterFreak101
WriterFreak101
14 years ago
Reply to  WriterFreak101

Can you tell me where it says that in the LWW book Dylan? I've read the book nearly a dozen times and I recall Aslan killing the Witch. Then again, it's been a while since I last read the book, so perhaps it. Please present your evidence.

coracle
coracle
14 years ago
Reply to  WriterFreak101

Dylan's suggestion that the White Witch ran away to the north is incorrect. She DID run away to the north sometime after The Magician's Nephew – but not after LWW as she was definitely DEAD.
Dylan, look on the Resources and Links on the main page here, and you can find the Narnian Timeline written by Lewis. That should clarify for you.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  WriterFreak101

I think the "of the same crew" comment can be interpreted one of three ways:

1. Jadis and the Green Lady are blood relatives. Since Jadis was the last of her line when she left Charn, this would mean that the Green Lady is a direct descendent of some sort. Maybe one of the heirs of Narnia was wandering in the North on some mission, when she tricked him into marrying her and they had a kid, but it was all a part of a plot to take the throne of Narnia.

2. The Green Lady is some Narnian human or who became Jadis protegée and follower.

3. The owls are just talking out of their butts. The Green Lady is some random chick who learned magic some how.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  WriterFreak101

If they do decide to go with options 1 or 2, I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of a brief flashback sequence explaining the Green-Lady-White-Witch connection. It might fit into her monologue.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  WriterFreak101

My mistake, your right, she ran to the north in MN. My bad. I wish Lewis had explained her more than he did, the character is kinda vague.

AJ
AJ
14 years ago
Reply to  tangentreality

It's perfectly logical for the Lady of the Green Kettle to be the White Witch. yes, Aslan killed the White Whitch, but one could say she became the queen of the underworld (Hell), so I think it makes perfect sense.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  AJ

You have a point there.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  AJ

Underland isn't hell though. It's a metaphor for a certain state of mind/soul/being (not sure what the right word is). If it was hell, then wouldn't Bism be a lower level of hell, rather than a jewelled paradise?

Besides, if the White Witch wasn't dead then what was the point of LWW?

coracle
coracle
14 years ago
Reply to  AJ

It isn't perfectly logical at all. Lewis was writing from a Christian world view, in which there is no reincarnation. So one colour of witch does not come back as a different sort or colour of witch. In fact she does not "come back" at all!
We discussed this with the Estate of C.S.Lewis early on in NarniaWeb, and it is very definite that they would not accept Tilda playing LOTGK because she is not the same person. There is a spiritual link, in that the same evil force is behind or in both women, but not an identity one. The whole topic used to be banned here, after some people insisted that the mods and the Estate could not be right on this!

Just a voice in my head
Just a voice in my head
14 years ago
Reply to  AJ

Yes, I will heave to agree. I think It was a good idea to have Tilda come back in the second and third movies, but not as a totally different character that I think C.S. Lewis meant to be a new new new person in the script. As my Mother would say, "We need to try to figure out what the author originally intended!" Which is…..Tilda is probably not TLOTGK. That's my opinion.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  tangentreality

No, the menacing tone of the movies hasn't sold the Harry Potter film franchise. They are popular because the books are current and popular. In fact, the HP franchise saw a dramatic drop in box office when the series had a severe darkening in tone between Chamber and Azkaban. They still did alright because Azkaban cost less and the book is a best-seller.

SC is about the battle between hope and despair, and I think the film makers should put as much emphasis on the moments of brightness and hopefulness, as they do on the moments of darkness and suspense.

Aslan's Girl
Aslan's Girl
14 years ago

I personally think it would be a little dumb to reboot with LWW, or to reboot at all, because it's too soon. If they waited a few more years, and then restarted, I could go with that a little better. But I LOVE the cast for this series, and I don't want to see them go! I'll be very sad if they start over. And I think that non-fans who didn't know what was going on would be like "what??" I mean, how would you advertise that? "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, PG-13 version, because the first one wasn't good enough!" Everyone loved LWW, and there aren't enough bad things about it to warrant a new one. There would have to be some drastic change, which is NOT what we need at this point (no more messing with story plots) I think it's not a good idea to try and make it PG-13. Model it after the book, and if it turns out PG-13, then that's okay. And I don't really like the idea of animation… finish the real movies first…

I personally think they should do SC, HHB, MN, and LB, in that order, but that's not considering money, which is a key factor at this point. I like the idea of a VDT prequel… only I'm worried they'd screw up HHB and add the dumb "green mist" again. Plus, I'm not entirely sure how that would be a prequel to VDT; wouldn't it be a prequel to PC? well, anyway, I'd be okay with HHB next. MN would be good, too, and it would be fun to see Tilda Swinton in a movie she was actually SUPPOSED to be in! Silver Chair, like I said, would be my preference, simply because it's the "next in line" and it seems it would be awkward to come back to it after doing MN or another book (Eustace's age, among other things, would complicate this)

I hate this blackout. Can you just make a decision already?! Grrr. Ah well, we'll all have to be patient a while longer. In the mean time, glumpuddle, you're definitely right… reread the books! They never lose their magic. (I just got the classic book two days ago… it's beautiful! =D It has the prettiest cover and all the Pauline Baynes illustrations! Sorry-flail! :P)

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Aslan's Girl

Your right, they dont need to go out of their way to make it PG-13. And right now, the best option for them is to make SC and then finish up with LB. Then, maybe some years later, revive the series with MN and HHB.

Erk
Erk
14 years ago

I'd love it if they'd dust off their VDT footage, scrap the green mist CGI, reshoot, and recreate the missing footage to create a more faithful rendering of the VDT story. VDT was heartbreakingly awful.

As for moving ahead with ANY of the other books, they seriously need to get back to the LWW approach, stay faithful to the storyline, or else they can deep six the remaining three books. I have not the stomach for another VDT adaptation; it was nauseating and stupid.

Aslan's Girl
Aslan's Girl
14 years ago
Reply to  Erk

Agreed!! I was watching VDT a couple days ago, and couldn't help but mentally critique every inconsistency. It made me very sad… they messed up my favorite book 🙁 I'm not sure how they'd market a redo, though. If they can figure out a good way to advertise it, I'm so in for a REAL VDT! Don't know how it would go over money-wise… but I bet the fans would sure appreciate it, at least 🙂

High Queene Shelly Belly
High Queene Shelly Belly
14 years ago
Reply to  Erk

it was shallow and childish, as opposed to the book, heart thrilling and awe inspiring. i just watch it to see pevensies and ben and aslan again. LOVE them. MISS them. hope they do hHB and expand on pevensie, and do SC with more caspian added in….

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

I think that the green mist was waaaaayyy too cheesey. It looked so fake! The movie was actually pretty boring 45 minutes in, but after that it got interesting. Im not that dissapointed about it, I just want them to continue making Narnia movies just as long as they dont ruin the plot. People always say that they hated PC and now they are going on and on and on about VDT. Seriously, nothing was wrong with PC, I actually liked that one. And with VDT, whats up with Edmund going crazy about golden sea shells?!? I mean seriously they messsed up that scene.

DaughterofAslan'scountry
DaughterofAslan'scountry
14 years ago

In VDT Caspian and edmund do go temporarily ballistic over the gold at Deathwater Island, but Caspian more so than Edmund. I also found that VDT wasn't that good. The first time I saw it I thought it was pretty good,but after that every time I watch it I find more and more fault with it.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

I felt that way too, that it was better the first time. At first I liked VDT better then PC, but I think im wrong. PC was definatley better.

High Queene Shelly Belly
High Queene Shelly Belly
14 years ago

dylan, edmund was acting wacko cause the green mist crawled in and cast it's spell on him. that's why he looked all crazy eyed. caspian was under the spell too, that's why he wanted to fight.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

Yeah, I know. they really messed up by adding the green mist. And you know what, what was Caspians reson for fighting? He didnt even have a point. Hes like "Im not letting you leave Narnia with gold, so Im going to slice ur head off for no reason" lol. The green mist was such a failure.

AJ
AJ
14 years ago
Reply to  Erk

I just like the movie mainly for the final scene in Aslan's Country. I love how they fought to keep some of Aslan's best lines in there.

High Queene Shelly Belly
High Queene Shelly Belly
14 years ago
Reply to  AJ

me too, it's the only time i felt like i was really seeing narnia. also the only part that I felt any emotional connection.

DaughterofAslan'scountry
DaughterofAslan'scountry
14 years ago
Reply to  AJ

I thought the end of the movie was the best too. When the big battle is over, after that it really felt like Narnia.
I had one problem with the end though. Caspian is not supposed to be there at the border of Aslan's country. Edmund especially would not say " Aren't you going?" In the book, Edmund and Lucy very adamantly tell Caspian he can't go to the end of the world.

Cherry
Cherry
14 years ago

Prequel: The Magician’s Nephew!!
Because of VDT being a such a disappointment to me I wouldn't like to see a sequel, YET! The Narnia series needs to go back to MN to be able to regain all the fans it has lost because of VDT failing. If they made SC it would just continue to go down hill. I think it would be great to see everything before the wardrobe and the Pevensies.
Also I think it should get LWW crew back, perhaps not Adamson but definitely Harry Gregson-Williams! His music just made the whole LWW and PC films! So much magic in that! Didn't feel at all the same with different music in VDT.

High Queene Shelly Belly
High Queene Shelly Belly
14 years ago
Reply to  Cherry

AGREED about the music HGW maade a HUGE DIFFERENCE. VDT music was pretty, but lame. i got goosebumps when the played the kings and quuens of old music. bring HGW back!!!!!!
ps the movie did great overseas, but then again, tey actally advertised there : /

Sui-Lun
Sui-Lun
14 years ago
Reply to  Cherry

Harry Gregson-Williams is definitely the composer, because with him and his magical-musical influence, Silver Chair might actually do better . VDT was not that lame, but still not as good as it seems. And no animations! CS Lewis's worst fear about Narnia movies are animated movies!!

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Sui-Lun

Bring in Howard Shore, his LOTR music is so awesome!!!!!

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  Sui-Lun

When and where did Lewis say that his greatest fear was an animated Narnia?

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Sui-Lun

Hmmmm? I thought at the time he didnt want a live action Narnia because he thought they would ruin Aslan with the poor special effects of the time. I think he would probably not mind a cartoon.

DaughterofAslan'scountry
DaughterofAslan'scountry
14 years ago
Reply to  Cherry

I 100% completely agree with you on the music! His music had a big part in making the series. The sound track for LWW actually sold pretty well! The composer they had for VDT wasn't nearly as good as Harry-Gregson Williams. It had a diffrerent feel than the other music.

Aslan's BFF
Aslan's BFF
14 years ago

Yeah. They used horns in VDT, whereas in LWW and PC they used strings. I've grown used to it though.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

Like i said bring in Howard Shore.

DaughterofAslan'scountry
DaughterofAslan'scountry
14 years ago

I don't think Howard Shore would be good. Narnia is not LoTR. Narnia has a different feel. Also, I've heard some of Howard Shore's other movie work(he composed the music for the Twilight Saga Eclipse), and his music is perfect for LOTR, but not Narnia. Composers have certain styles(John Williams is an exception) and certain things there perfect for. I think Harry Gregson Williams is just right for Narnia.

Hiking Peter
Hiking Peter
14 years ago

I think the Music on VDT was pretty bad. I didn't get the feeling of "Oh, this is the magical Narnia!" Now I get the feel,"Oh. This music is awful." But I have learned to live with it. Harry Gregson-Williams is their best choice if they want the music lovers to be ecstatic about it.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

Hmmm……. How about Hans Zimmer. Anyway, I did like the music in LWW, that was really good

Louloudi the Centaur
Louloudi the Centaur
14 years ago

Great video! I will, always, always like the books far better than the films. But here are some of my thoughts.

1) SC This one has to be the one to do next. While it is not one of my favorites of the books, they should complete this line of book to films while they can. It's not because of the aging process, but I think doing MN before this could cause people to think the series is almost over. Besides, I think doing SC first(because it is just a little more mature; please don't debate about this) could attract some older fans to the series.

2)MN, while it is one of my favorites books with one of my favorite characters, Digory Kirke, I don't want them to do it yet(see above). Also, I think people are getting really tired of the White Witch, and I don't think they really want to see her again for awhile. While she is a very popular character, not just in the books, but in pop culture(even a trailer music company has a song called White Witch), I think we should take a break and see a whole new villan, like LotGK.

3)If a LWW reboot were to be done, I would actually try to have it done for younger children, but keep its emotional depth. Kind of like a Disney movie like The Lion King. When you are younger, you can just enjoy the movie on a reason of understanding the basic plot, but when you are older, you see the emotional core of the film. Kind of like the books as well, when you don't see all the depth at first, but eventually find it.

4) If an MN reboot were to be done as the first film, I have similar thoughts for it with LWW. While doing this one first, I think more people would be able to follow the story better in chronological order.

5)HHB This is actually my least favorite Narnia book, but I may have to read it again to give better thoughts. What I will say though is that like MN, this has LWW ties. During a trailer, I would put down something like "During the Narnia Golden Age, when the Pevensie Children Ruled". That could attract people, and it wouldn't be false marketing, like with the White Witch. 😉

6) My thoughts for this is said in the second sentence I typed.

Here are my thoughts if a modernized Narnia were to be announced:… AUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHH! No, no, no! Hollywood, you can't ruin a beautiful classic like this alongside, oh Gulliver's Travels, Around the World in Eighty Days, Mr. Popper's Penguins, and all those other books that now have their authors rolling in their graves! I know what they would do with Susan, I just know it, and it's so awful I can't say it! And they would probably give the other characters the I.Q. of a walnut! By the way, how would hiding from an earthquake in San Francisco be possible? The city is on a tectonic plate basically, and earthquakes can't be predicted until they actually come….

While it almost seems very unlikely, I think a Narnia reboot could be possible. If I recall things right, there was a lot of competition between studios to partner with Walden Media when LWW was announced, and after Disney dropped out, it took only a month for Fox to come along. I wonder what it would be like if a series were to try to do a Narnia series without a partner? Probably much faster with the films. XD

Well, all we can do is be patient. Flaherty himself even said in an interview back in March that it could be some time before another Narnia film is announced. Waiting a few years could actually help, with all these major film series, like Twilight and LotR, about to conclude. Then Narnia could have more options for release times.

In conclusion, there are many possibilities on what could happen to Narnia, but I think the best thing wee as fans can do is continue to show our support for the series by reading the books, buying or renting the movies, and continue visiting these great fan sites. 🙂

Just Queen, not High Queen
Just Queen, not High Queen
14 years ago

Silver Chair! Silver Chair! Silver Chair! Silver Chair! Silver Chair! Silver Chair!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What's taking them so long to decide?

Anything but a reboot!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't want nothing either though.

Why not film SC and MN at the same time and release SC first as a compromise?

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

Good idea JQnHQ!

Aslan's BFF
Aslan's BFF
14 years ago

Absolutely! They think they have to use the money from that guy's will like immediately. There's nothing wrong with doing MN, just they need to do it after SC because of Will Poulter's age. I mean, this isn't rocket science!

DaughterofAslan'scountry
DaughterofAslan'scountry
14 years ago

I think that is the best option right now. I'm against doing MN next, but I think this is the most realistic thing to do now. That way everyone wins.

Hiking Peter
Hiking Peter
14 years ago

Will Poulter doesn't win.

DaughterofAslan'scountry
DaughterofAslan'scountry
14 years ago
Reply to  Hiking Peter

Will Poulter would win. That's what it means if you film them at the same time. They could film MN and SC at the same time, and still use Will Poulter. The only thing is when they finally release SC Will's going to walk down the red carpet quite a bit older than he is in the film.

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago

Thanks glumPuddle! I like these type of things to pass the time for news. I personaly think the best thing to do is to continue on the series. Absolutly no one will make a better LWW. It is almost word for word and it captures the magic of the book. I would like to see SC next but I don't think it would be the best for the series to make MN next (Besides Poulter's age, of course) because I fear that if SC flops Walden will think "Oh well. We are done. They got the first four in, and not many things are left hanging." But (I don't think it will flop) if MN does flop, they might stop the series, but they might not becuse everything would be very incomplete.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago

Honestly, given that the last 2 movies lost money, if the next one fails, they're almost certainly done, no matter which one it is. I think Silver Chair, well-made and well-marketed, would make more money than Magician's Nephew, though.

High Queene Shelly Belly
High Queene Shelly Belly
14 years ago

thank you for posting , NARNIAWEB!! we all come here everyday and go away forelorn with no postings. making our own discussions is great, we get to connect and discuss, at least-

Weirdo
Weirdo
14 years ago

Please, no reboot! The actors are perfect. Despite flaws, I believe I like the movies better in many ways. I vote Silver Chair all the way!
We need a Narnia film without the White Witch.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Weirdo

Nice name 🙂

PepperDarcy
14 years ago

OOOOH! I could SO wish they would just redo! Especially make it PG13!! 😀 that'd be SO awesome!! 😀 Either that or do SC next!!

Dude, I haven't posted here in AGES!!

PepperDarcy
14 years ago
Reply to  PepperDarcy

it's AUGUST?! :facepalm: oh my! :blink: Way to go, GlumPuddle! Awesome ideas!

Aslan's BFF
Aslan's BFF
14 years ago
Reply to  PepperDarcy

Why?

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Aslan's BFF

Gee, a redo? Man im so sick of reboots. Anyway, they dont need to make it PG 13, LWW and PC had plenty of awesome violence and fighting scenes. I think LWW had better battle scenes then PC, and VDT had none. I dont like the idea of a modern day version, a cartoon/animation, or making it darker (wich would be totally against Lewis' idea of Narnia). Just finish the series, and then they can do something. They could bring in Peter Jackson(YES!!!) and make Narnia reeeaaallly epic, but it wouldnt work out that way.

Aslan's BFF
Aslan's BFF
14 years ago
Reply to  Aslan's BFF

Oh, phew! I thought you were *for* a redo. Gosh, I feel so much better!

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Aslan's BFF

No no no, I liked LWWW and PC perfectly fine. VDT, not so great. But it was fine. WE dont need the franchise wasting there money and confusing the audiences by doing a reboot.

Aslan's BFF
Aslan's BFF
14 years ago
Reply to  Aslan's BFF

Or offending any of the actors or anyone else in charge of making them.

Hiking Peter
Hiking Peter
14 years ago
Reply to  PepperDarcy

No it would not be great. Lewis wrote these books for children, not violence lovers!!!!! (No offense, please!)

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Hiking Peter

No offense taken. And you are absolutley right, the books are for children. And besides, a super violent Narnia movie would not go well with many people(including you i suppose).

Micayla
Micayla
14 years ago

Silver Chair! no redo of LWW!!!!!!

Sui-Lun
Sui-Lun
14 years ago

NO REBOOTS!! I love the series the way it is, but I'd love to have the series continue on! I don't mind if they make the next movies PG, PG13, R, or NR, but please don't reboot!

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago
Reply to  Sui-Lun

Is G not on your list? 🙂

DaughterofAslan'scountry
DaughterofAslan'scountry
14 years ago

You couldn't make a faithful adaptation that captures the magic of the books, but then again, PG 5 or 6 years ago is G today.

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago

I know. I was kidding 🙂

ElizabethS
ElizabethS
14 years ago

Hey all, this is my first post on here! First some thoughts on previous installments…
I thought LWW really captured the magic of the first book. Love the casting of the kids. No real complaints worth mentioning. As for PC I feel like they left behind a little of the magic that LWW had, but it was great nonetheless. Love Ben Barnes as PC as well as the other adult cast members. The score for the these first two was absolutely incredible-they add so much to the experience. Then came VDT. The new soundtrack really disappointed me as well as how they told the story. It really is a shame because I think the cast is excellent, including Poulter.

So what's next? I just hope something is. In my mind the only way to go is MN or SC. For Poulter's sake and as a fan, I'd like to have SC made. But I really fear that this would be the end of these versions of the film. If it did not perform well, they would have a decent amount of the loose ends explained and it would be closure for the film-only or casual fans. This is why I feel it would be best for them to go with MN. As previously mentioned, it is hugely popular and only comes behind LWW on many readers' lists. Also one of my favorites, I think it could save the series. The marketing would obviously play on the Pevensies story again and have a tagline such as 'before they went in the wardrobe'. Well, I hope the tagline would be much better than that, but you get my drift. Tilda Swinton would once again be amazing, and actually have a big part this time so they don't have to awkwardly sneak her in. I just hope the performance of VDT was a wake up call for what needs to be changed. I think one thing they always managed to get right though was casting, not to mention the beautiful sets.

I'd love to hear your thoughts!!

Twinimage
Twinimage
14 years ago

After the last two movies, I'm not sure if I'd want to see another Narnia film.

What about doing a TV mini series? Some, if not most, of the Narnia stories are better in numerous parts, rather than in a 2 1/2 hour sitting. Each chapter could be an hour or 1/2 hour long episode. It would give time to really do each part justice as well as provide better character development.

I really dislike the idea of a reboot at this time. Reboots are becoming very common and it's getting annoying. No guarantee that it would be any better.

krazykat_randi
krazykat_randi
14 years ago

My next favorite book, and the next one I would love to see as a film is "The Last Battle". Silver Chair was not my favorite. I do love the MN and Horse and his Boy, but I really love Last Battle. Would not like to se a LWW reboot. It's way too soon, and would probably fail.

barefootprincess
barefootprincess
14 years ago

I think as long as Andrew Adamson directed and Harry Gregerson Williams did the music I would be extremely happy. Those were my main two issues with Dawn Treader. I think it just wasn't filmed very well at all. I think the reason why Prince Caspian didn't do as well as LWW was because ( like VDT) It was released right before a major much more anticipated movie. Also Prince Caspian was fantastic although I feel like it was just a little too dark to be a real " childrens" movie like LWW. I mean at the point it came out it couldn't have been an adult movie and it wasn't enough of teenager movie ( which I personally like)( Aka it wasn't a romance, it didn't have lots of explosions or stupid drama or vampires. things that normally attract the usual teenage crowds..( sadly) ) but at the same time it was too dark for a children's movie. Personally rather than doing the rebooting thing ( which probably would not very well at all ( I mean you already have one why need another? and it's a children's story I don't know about making it PG13) ) anway I think personally if they can't do the Narnia series maybe they should do the series that he wrote with the " out of the silent planet" and the " prelandra". ( Aka space trilogy or also called ransom trilogy). Sorry if I offend anyone these are merely my opinions

220chrisTian / AslansLily

OPTION 1: Silver Chair next – sequel
OPTION 2: Magician's Nephew next – reboot

I would love to see Horse and His Boy and Last Battle come to the screen but I'm not sure which one(s) should come before LB. :/

I'm strongly opposed to an LWW reboot. The Walden/Disney version has the makings of a classic. It's by far the best screen adaptation of the book! [compared to BBC and the animated cartoon]

Why MN could be next http://www.aslanscountry.com/2011/08/aslan%E2%80%99s-meditations-i-am-the-door-the-good-shepherd-part-1/

220chrisTian / AslansLily

Option 2: I meant MN as a prequel not reboot. Sorry. Liam Neeson as Aslan and Tilda Swinton as WW are just too perfect…

Hiking Peter
Hiking Peter
14 years ago

Has anyone though of this????? SC…LB (because Poulter and some Jill girl need to be about the same age for this LB) THEN HBB then mn? Bad Idea, I know, but why not wheigh in all the options?

Hiking Peter
Hiking Peter
14 years ago
Reply to  Hiking Peter

Sorry, I misspelled "Weigh". Typographical error.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  Hiking Peter

Oh, it's been considered. First of all, a considerable amount of time is supposed to pass between SC and LB, second of all, LB refers to the rings and the Calormenes, which are explained in MN and HHB respectively. Thirdly, LB is the end, you can't expect people to show up for a sequel after all of the characters have died.

ruhleowyn
ruhleowyn
14 years ago
Reply to  Hiking Peter

I was wondering the same thing. Everyone is saying SC next because of Poulter's age. If that is the case you then have to immediately make LB because you will have Will and Jill both growing quickly.

Remember how much Skandar changed between LWW and VDT. It's a freak thing of nature called growth. It happens to everyone, and it's amazing how much someone can change because of it. I think if you have Will continue (yes, he was fantastic as eustace. I realize that.) but if you have him continue you have to realize that he is a growing boy. (I'm not 100% sure about this fact but I think I heard that he grew about a foot just during the VDT filming.) If you continue with him you can't have another huge stall between movies or he will be six foot for LB. (COMPLETE exageration to make a point.)

The older two pevensies left in VDT, and in SC you are loosing the other two. I know for the people I know who have not read the books(shame on them) They were the highlights. Now in SC you are asked to spend the whole movie with the rat of the last movie. I know for some of my friends that would make them hesitate to see it. I was thinking about this when I realized that FOR ME the last two books do not revolve around Eustace at all. I read SC for Puddleglum, and LB for the real Narnia.

For me I think they should either do SC,LB,then go back and do MN,HHB. OR start with MN then do HHB and (don't kill me for this)recast Eustace when they return to do SC and LB since he is the only caryover character(other than Dying Caspian) and was a minor character in VDT.

This is all just my opinion.

ruhleowyn
ruhleowyn
14 years ago
Reply to  Hiking Peter

Though I have to agree with your points Anhun.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  Hiking Peter

How can you agree with my points if you're saying that Jill and Eustace can't age between SC and LB. LB is supposed to take place more than 5 years after SC. If they do them back to back there'll be a problem that Jill and Eustace will be too young for LB. At least, if they recast Eustace for SC and make him more age-appropriate.

ruhleowyn
ruhleowyn
14 years ago
Reply to  Hiking Peter

Does it specify it as that much later. I might have to do another reread. I was mainly trying to point out that he is the only link character between VDT and SC (other than Aslan)

jonathan
jonathan
14 years ago

the magician's nephew !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

StevoBaggins
StevoBaggins
14 years ago

I would be in favor of a reboot, BUT it's too soon. I loved the way they did LWW, but Prince Caspian definitely needs a "do-over"…and VDT was marginally better but could also stand a "do-over"…

That said, I would love to see this cast finish the series, with the clear understanding that they need to STICK TO THE BOOKS! Forget this stupid "green mist", Susan/Caspian romance, annoying Peter, and other elements that aren't in the books and distract from the magic and wonder of Lewis' works.

Also, if they don't do another movie soon, it won't matter what order they do it. Will Poulter will be too old even if they do SC next. In addition, I think the longer they wait, the more people will lose interest.

But whatever they do, they need to make sure the director is a fan of the book they are directing, and that said director doesn't feel we need to add unnecessary "common threads"…

ruhleowyn
ruhleowyn
14 years ago
Reply to  StevoBaggins

Totally agree.

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago

Nice affects on that video, glumPuddle. I liked the sound effects too 🙂

Watziznehm
Watziznehm
14 years ago

I wouldn't mind a reboot. I would love a reboot. Just cut out some of the Hollywood jazz, add a tin soldier dancing on a yellow brick road, throw in a dash bash 'em an' slash 'em and you've got your remake!

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago
Reply to  Watziznehm

Don't forget the Wicked Wight Witch of the North! 🙂

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago

I mean the Wicked White Witch of the North. Sorry for the typo!

Watziznehm
Watziznehm
14 years ago

Oh by all means! Let’s not forget her. Don’t kill her off in the reboot either! Just sorta half kill her and keep here around in case the arises to amuse the crowd in future films!

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago

🙂

ruhleowyn
ruhleowyn
14 years ago

🙂

ruhleowyn
ruhleowyn
14 years ago

Busted a gut laughing over this. Maybe turn the Calormens into flying monkeys to kidnap Edmund while your at it.

Fireflower
Fireflower
14 years ago

Silver Chair! Silver Chair! Silver Chair! Silver Chair! NO REBOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fireflower
Fireflower
14 years ago
Reply to  Fireflower

PLEASE DO NOT REBOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Watziznehm
Watziznehm
14 years ago

Oh by all means! Let's not forget her. Don't kill her off in the reboot either! Just sorta half kill her and keep here around in case the arises to amuse the crowd in future films!

DanielmyBrother
14 years ago

They don't need to reboot. The first two were great movies. I would like a do over on Dawn Treader though. It's the best book in the series, but the weakest movie.

Swordebrithil12
14 years ago

I agree. I was shocked really at how poor VDT turned out. The first two were magnificent.

ruhleowyn
ruhleowyn
14 years ago

I agree I don't think you could make LWW better. And although there were a lot of things in PC that frustrated me it was a decent movie. VDT really did leave the safe grounds though in my oppinion.

Swordebrithil12
14 years ago

A reboot would be disastrous. I think the best thing they can do now is keep following the original order of the books. Silver Chair, further up and further in.

Fireflower
Fireflower
14 years ago

I TOTALLY agree!!!!!!!

Reepicheep775
Reepicheep775
14 years ago

Congratulations on keeping a straight face while mentioning the Green Mist, gP. 😉

StevoBaggins
StevoBaggins
14 years ago

Another idea for a reboot: 7 musicals!

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  StevoBaggins

I love it!

♫Springtime for Aslan and Narnia
Winter for Jadis and wolves♫

StevoBaggins
StevoBaggins
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

Nice!

DaughterofAslan'scountry
DaughterofAslan'scountry
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

In my opinion, that would be a nightmare!

Hiking Peter
Hiking Peter
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

DITTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

Yes of coarse! I know a great part to! When Aslan gives Fledge wings, Aslan starts singing "You can fly, You can fly, You can Fly, You can Fly!!!!!" Boy that would be TERRABLE!!!

ruhleowyn
ruhleowyn
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

HEHEHEHE, Edmund:Please ma'am, I want some…more.
White Which: MORE!!!!!!!

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

LOL!!!! You want MORRREE!!!! Nice!!!

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

You could have Edmund sing "If I were a rich man" when the white witch tells him about her castle.

Aslan's BFF
Aslan's BFF
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

Or Caspian and Susan singing "A Whole New World". (not that I dislike the pairing)

Hiking Peter
Hiking Peter
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

Or how about this one……….Susan and Caspian…Think of MEEEE, Think of me FONDLY When We Said GOOOODBYE!!!!! (I hope Anna P. doesn't sing)

ruhleowyn
ruhleowyn
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

LOVING THIS THREAD!! Lucy serves the special cordial with a "spoonful of sugar" to help the medicine go down.

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

Or you could have Peter fighting a battle while singing "I gotta – get my, get my head in the game!" (Centaurs join in) "You gotta get, get, get, your head in the game!"

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

Yeesh…… Anyway, how about all the Narnians singing "One more day" before the battle with the Telmarines

Aslan's BFF
Aslan's BFF
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

And after Eustace's redemption: "Aslan loves me this I know!"

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

lol

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

I can actually see somebody making a Narnia Broadway show.

ruhleowyn
ruhleowyn
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

I actually think there is a musical for LWW It just never became famous. Hehe, I wonder why.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

Rilian sings about the Green Lady:
♪Green Lady, Green Lady, ever-lovin' Green Lady
is takin' a chance, talk about your long shots,
takin' a chance on me!♪

ruhleowyn
ruhleowyn
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

King Tirian at the end of LB. "Kiss today goodbye, the sweetness and the sorrow. We did what we had to do, Can't regret, won't forget, what I did for love."

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

Riliian to the Green Lady "Ill do anything, for you dear anything, and ill do anything, anyhting, for you!" lol.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

Oh! And when the beavers tell the Pevensies about the prophecy "Tradition, TRADITION!"

ruhleowyn
ruhleowyn
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

Shasta on the way through Tashbaan…"Wiv a little bit, wiv a little bit, wiv a little bit of luck we'll sneak right through."

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

hehehe

ruhl-eowyn
ruhl-eowyn
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

I'm just going to say I think I found all of the musical fans. 🙂

Louloudi the Centaur
Louloudi the Centaur
14 years ago

Am I the only one who thinks a reboot could be done well if we get the right people? Why do you guys who don't want a reboot done don't want it done? I asked that to some people earlier and they said it would be too strange without the current cast because they are the characters. No! The cast we have now are people, not the characters. Georgie Henley is Georgie Henley, not Lucy. Will Poulter is Will Poulter, not Eustace.

Any other reasons why you think a reboot would be bad? Are you scared the filmmakers would do something wrong?

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago

A reboot would be bad for several reasons:

1. LWW was an excellent and extremely popular movie. To the modern movie going public, Tilda Swinton is the quintessential White Witch, Georgie is the quintessential Lucy, and so on and so forth. A reboot would be weird and pointless.

2. A reboot would mean that they need to navigate Prince Caspian yet again, a feeble, unpopular book that's difficult to translate into a good, popular movie.

3. It means that we will have to wait that much longer for HHB. 🙁

ruhleowyn
ruhleowyn
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

YAY for HHB, If they stop the series before it I'm going to make it myself.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

Well, centaur dude, I think you can do a reboot, and have different actors, and have it be a really good movie. But the reason I and many others dont like the idea of a reboot you have pointed out. And it is true, Georgie is Georgie, not Lucy. And Poulter isnt Eustace (well, he could be 🙂 ) but the actors are PERFECT for the parts.

waggawerewolf27
waggawerewolf27
14 years ago

No reboot, please. Walden's versions of both LWW and PC were quite adequate. I can't see anyone making a better film adaptation for PC, at any rate.

I'd like to agree that Silver Chair would be the next most logical effort after VDT, but BBC has already been down that track with their 1980's adaptation. It was their reuse of their Jadis/White Witch as the Lady of the Green Kirtle that caused the confusion between these two characters ever after. Furthermore, it closes down Walden's options. They would have no alternative but to do Last Battle next.

That leaves Magician's Nephew, which has never been screened before. Tilda Swinton has a rightful place in this film. As does LWW's Professor. It has a strong tie with LWW in explaining the Lion, the Witch, the Wardrobe, not to mention the Lamppost. And since in VDT the Professor tutored Peter whilst Lucy and Edmund were at Eustace's place, it is the only other logical alternative to VDT.

A good Magician's Nephew could be followed then by HHB, then SC and finally LB.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago

How would they have no alternative? Honestly I fail to see how sticking MN and HHB in between SC and LB would be any more awkward that sticking them between VDT and SC. IF you can follow up VDT, which makes no mention of Digory Kirke, with MN which is all about him, you can do the same for SC. Either way the chronology is disrupted. Also, Silver Chair doesn't lead into Last Battle any better than MN or HHB. MN sets up the rings for LB, and HHB introduces the Calormenes that are making trouble in LB. For that very reason, if they choose to make LB at all, which I think would be a mistake, it must come after the other 3.

Then again, as I've said before, making a big-budget version of LB would be a ghastly commercial mistake. They're better off ending with MN, creating a full-circle effect. Even making MN would be unwise, if they don't recapture audiences' interest in movie-Narnia with strong adaptations of SC and/or HHB first.

waggawerewolf27
waggawerewolf27
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

"IF you can follow up VDT, which makes no mention of Digory Kirke, with MN which is all about him, you can do the same for SC"

No you can't. Peter was with the Professor in VDT – look at the third paragraph of the book. They could reasonably do SC after MN, since neither MN nor VDT have Jill, but then there is a good chance we miss out of HHB altogether. Jill is only in SC and LB.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

They cut the part about Peter studying with the Professor out of the movie though, thus there would be no connection between a movie of MN and the existing Walden movie of VDT. In fact they were not clear about Peter's whereabouts, stating only that he and Susan were "off on adventures." This vaguely implies that he was with Susan in America, but it could also be interpreted that he was on a separate adventure. Either way, studying with a professor hardly constitutes an adventure.

I think they were intentionally vague because movie-Peter, at that point, was at least 18. This means, for one thing, he would already have taken his certificate exams, and for another, that he was old enough to enlist. It would be extremely out of character for Peter not to enlist if he's old enough. Perhaps that was the "adventure" that Lucy was referring to. Suffice it to say that, given how much older movie-Peter is than book-Peter, it makes no sense for him to be staying with the professor.

StevoBaggins
StevoBaggins
14 years ago

Also, if they do Last Battle, Eustace and Jill would need to be noticeably older than in Silver Chair, as it takes place several earth years later. They would have plenty of time to do Magician's Nephew and Horse & His Boy in between (that is, assuming they do SC next).

StevoBaggins
StevoBaggins
14 years ago

Also, if they wait long enough to do HHB, Anna, Skandar & Georgie may be old enough to play Susan, Edmund and Lucy as adult King and Queens…

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  StevoBaggins

Anna and Skandar are already old enough for that. Georgie could be styled to look like a young adult, I think.

freya
freya
14 years ago
Reply to  StevoBaggins

Didn't Skandar throw his acting career out the window after VDT? Would be weird seeing anyone else playing Edmund alongside Anna and Georgie, unless they turn it around a little bit and put Peter in Edmund's place so they can cast William instead. Then Edmund would be the one off fighting giants in the north. Worse alterations have been made.

Hiking Peter
Hiking Peter
14 years ago
Reply to  StevoBaggins

Hello????? What about William Moseley for Peter????? (((Look at the name on my comment)))

StevoBaggins
StevoBaggins
14 years ago
Reply to  StevoBaggins

They could theoretically have William Moseley as Peter, but as you don't see him in the book, I'd rather they not insert him. As he's off fighting giants in the north, it would be a distraction to the plot to add a random giant/Narnian battle.

Freya
Freya
14 years ago
Reply to  StevoBaggins

I didn't mean to add some stupid giant war, it would simply be an explanation to why Edmund isn't present in the movie, just like in the book, except he and Peter swap places. And I am fully aware that Peter isn't in the book, but it wouldn't hurt the plot or drive of the movie in any way if Peter takes Edmund's place in HHB. Because I'd rather see William Moseley back as Peter instead of a new guy playing Edmund, it's actually rather unthinkable.

DaughterofAslan'scountry
DaughterofAslan'scountry
14 years ago

I don't agree with you that they would have to do LB next after SC. When the books came out, it was SC, HB, MN, and then LB. Also, LB is set seven years after SC.

DaughterofAslan'scountry
DaughterofAslan'scountry
14 years ago

I forgot to mention since it's seven years later, Eustace and Jill are 17 or 18, I forget which one, there pretty much grown up, so the Will Poulter and whoever plays Jill couldn't be to old for LB unless they were 30.

Aravis Narnia
Aravis Narnia
14 years ago

They simply need to do the most logical thing and film The Silver Chair. They already have Will Poulter. And Jill Pole was mentioned as well. So why not?

ruhleowyn
ruhleowyn
14 years ago
Reply to  Aravis Narnia

I find it irritating that because they introduced Jill in VDT you can't have the correct introduction in SC. She originally is scared of Eustace because of his bullying, why would she want to visit him in VDT? That's my question.

waggawerewolf27
waggawerewolf27
14 years ago
Reply to  ruhleowyn

Homework? Recovering missing property? Collecting for the War Effort? Returning borrowed items? Hand-me-downs? Care of War Orphans? Jill's parents knew Alberta and Harold Scrubb from somewhere else? Plenty of reasons.

ruhleowyn
ruhleowyn
14 years ago
Reply to  ruhleowyn

True. I hadn't thought of any of those.

Hiking Peter
Hiking Peter
14 years ago

NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLease, please, please, please, please don't re-do LWW! It is a great movie by itself, it was the best of all three! PLEASE DON'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It doesn't need this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Friederike
Friederike
14 years ago

May be they should make both of them and show magicians nephew first( bec they think more people will see it) and then Silver Chair may be w/ a lesser budged.

220chrisTian / AslansLily

I know this has nothing to do with Narnia 4, but you can guys please pray for London? Massive riots, looting, and fires are happening there right now! They have been for three days, with hundreds arrested. And it's spread to 3-4 other cities: Birmingham, Liverpool, Leeds, Manchester!

Pray for the safety of the main Narnia cast, and everyone else connected with the films. The same goes for those from other franchises who live in the affected cities.

I just learned that Skandar is from the London borough of Camden. The fires and rioting spread there just today! And we don't know if Georgie [London or Ilkley], Anna and Will Poulter [London] are safe either! Ben and William Moseley are in America.

Narnia 4 doesn't matter right now! No franchise does! Prayer for London is what matters!

http://www.facebook.com/AslansCountry/posts/10150282760519181

220chrisTian / AslansLily

I just learned that the rioting has spread to the northern cities of Liverpool and Bradford! Georgie attends Bradford Grammar School! Pray!

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago

They need to put the whole country under martial law. This is scary stuff.

I think we should pray for the developed world as a whole. Copy cat violence could easily spread to the U.S. and other countries.

Louloudi the Centaur
Louloudi the Centaur
14 years ago

I'm praying for the whole city! I'm praying for the families of the cast too! Goodness sake, there was even an 11 year old arrested! What are they even doing this for?

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago

Mob mentality. Although there was a peaceful protest related to a suspicious police shooting at the very beginning, hoards of disenfranchised youth have turned it into a vicious mob crime spree. Most of them don't even know what they're meant to be protesting.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

Why the chaos and destruction? Only more signs of the end times.

Hiking Peter
Hiking Peter
14 years ago

Good grief! Have they done that? An 11 year old kid. Boy have they sunk low. No offense to the British using this site.)
How about Christ returns right about……..now.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago

You're saying they've sunk low for arresting an 11-year-old? These kids are looting stores, burning down peoples' homes and attacking people with disabilities. Are you saying that the police should do nothing just because they're young? I don't think you'd feel that way if YOUR house was on fire.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

Your kidding, right? " Theyve sunk so low"? Honeslty, youve got to be blind. Have you seen the destruction these "kids" and other people are doing? I saw on the news one of the English reporters even asked the kids what they were doing out there, and they replied by saying they want free stuff. And by running in a pack, they can accomplish this. I think the ploice have the right to be doing what there doing. If they dont do anything to stop these people and just stand around out there saying "Well, looks like there are kids beating up poeple and burning down houses, so I think we should let them off the hook and leave London and Manchester and Birmingham in danger". This is outrageuouse that this is even happening. Stop calling them protesters, they are RIOTERS. They are CROOKS. They are CRIMINALS. No more commmpasion, this is a national crisis. Because of these "harmless" kids, England is facing a seriouse problem.

Aslan's BFF
Aslan's BFF
14 years ago

If anyone has read "The Cross and the Switchblade", they'll understand even more about how mean kids can be. (they can be real murderers I tell you!)

Hiking Peter
Hiking Peter
14 years ago

So,what I meant was, the 11 year old sunk low. (Sorry about the communication problem)

Hiking Peter
Hiking Peter
14 years ago

Also, I am not a news watcher, because I happen to be busy when the news comes on, and I am not informed, so please don't judge me. I'm really sorry, ok? And Perhaps these "crooks" are trying to get their old life back????

DaughterofAslan'scountry
DaughterofAslan'scountry
14 years ago

What Hiking Peter meant I think is that some of the Britsh youth have sunk low because even 11 year olds are committing crimes.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

Its, fine, I took it the wrong way. And your right, the kids have sunken pretty low. Lets just hope that there arent any copycat riots out in the US, cause it would not end well.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

Sorry bout that Hiking Peter.

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago

I was just reading VDT and there's a part I don't get. I know it's off base, but please bear with me. The book says this: "I had to apologize or that dangerous little brute would have been at me with his sword. And the Caspian showed his true color as a brutal tyrant and said out loud for everyone to hear that anyone found 'stealing' water in future would get 'two dozen'." What does two dozen mean?

Mel W
Mel W
14 years ago

Two dozen kicks to the shins

StevoBaggins
StevoBaggins
14 years ago

Lashes with a whip

coracle
coracle
14 years ago

Stevo is correct – it's a serious punishment for a serious crime. On board ship with very low water or food, rationing must be maintained. (And the child readers in England will know about rationing, as it continued there for years after the war!) Taking crucial rations could risk someone's life, so the punishment was extreme – and should deter anyone else.

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago
Reply to  coracle

Thanks guys!!!

LL
LL
14 years ago

A reboot is sheer foolery. A cast without Skandar Keynes is disastrous.

Louloudi the Centaur
Louloudi the Centaur
14 years ago
Reply to  LL

Really? Are you serious? I'm tired of people saying "Oh we can't do a Narnia reboot because it won't have so and so in it." That's the best reason? Sorry, your opinion is your opinion and I respect it in all reasons, but is that really the best reason why we can't do a Narnia reboot?

LL
LL
14 years ago

What other reason is there? lol

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

Yeah centaur dude, different cast is one of my biggest issues with a reboot. And changing the books plot, which we already have had enough of that.

Hiking Peter
Hiking Peter
14 years ago

Yeah, try thinking of how the actors would feel. Like, they worked so hard, and now people think they aren't good enough!

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

That would suck so bad. They should never remake LWW, that movie was so good and true to the book. Prince Caspian had its flaws, but it was a good movie. VDT, well to say the least, was not the greatest movie in the world, and they could remake it, but why bother?

gn
gn
14 years ago

The fudamental problem with making "The Magician's Nephew" still remains. You could do a fantastic filming of that book. But it's not something that Walden has any interest in doing, and the butchery of Treader proves it. They want to make blockbuster action movies. More to the point, whatever they want, this is what general audiences now expect.
How do you make a blockbuster action movie out of "The Magician's Nephew", climaxing in the Big Battle, without so altering the plot as to make Treader look authentic?
I can brainstorm a few ideas, sure, but the last thing I want to do is give them ideas.
The now-immortal White Witch returns to Charn to battle her sister, but the Narnians are recruited on the sister's side? Good grief, it hurts just to type it… You see what I mean?
The animation option may end up being the best. Future movies have to be so fundamentally different that they overcome the trap set in the beginning – that every Narnia movie is a Big Battle Extravaganza.
Maybe they could cast Jackie Chan as the Witch's sister.

Somegem
Somegem
14 years ago

How is a single random persons opinion newsworthy?

glumPuddle
glumPuddle
14 years ago
Reply to  Somegem

It's not, but we're starving for news, and I was hoping to stir the pot a little in the forum.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  glumPuddle

I guess that worked lol

DaughterofAslan'scountry
DaughterofAslan'scountry
14 years ago

I think it's a proven fact in regard to the Narnia series that movies can be alot harder to do than books! Silver chair is probably one of the books that's easier to make into a movie, because you don't have 3 or 4 different time frames and places going on like in PC. It's not as complex spiritually and depth wise as VDT and MN. The book also has a driving clear purpose in it, save Rilian and therefore Narnia.
Also, haven't the problems that have resulted with the Narnia movie franchise occured because the people in charge changed things to make more money? It seems all these things they do to make more money backlash on them and end up taking away money.
If they try to be faithful to the book and worry less about the money, maybe they'll actually make more money, like in LWW!

Aslan's BFF
Aslan's BFF
14 years ago

Not long ago, Perry Moore died and left all his money for them to make MN. So I think they're sitting there with the money for MN on their hands and just running their fingers through it…they're not even negotiating.

Bookwyrm
Bookwyrm
14 years ago
Reply to  Aslan's BFF

What are you even talking about? I doubt rather seriously that Perry Moore left his entire worldly wealth to his employer when he had a partner and extended family to leave it to. Besides, I doubt very seriously the man had enough money to fund a Narnia film with. He wasn't exactly a billionaire.

Aslan's BFF
Aslan's BFF
14 years ago
Reply to  Aslan's BFF

Well, I didn't say he was a millionaire. He just left *some* money for funding MN. (I'm only half an idiot. I do know that he wasn't the richest man in the world.)

DaughterofAslan'scountry
DaughterofAslan'scountry
14 years ago

I just noticed I posted the 100th comment! First time for me!

Michael
Michael
14 years ago

i don't want a reboot. SC or MN should be made next. same cast. But,,,, what if we changed some of the crew instead????

MagiciansNephew1
MagiciansNephew1
14 years ago

Well I want the series to be continued, but if they don't, then a reboot down the line might be a decent idea.

If a reboot is planned, I think they should start with MN. Then they should do LWW, but instead of ending with the Pevensies returning to England, they should end with the coronation scene. This would enable them to do HHB directly after LWW, and then they could continue on with the normal order after that (PC, VotDT, SC, LB).

I also don't mind if they make them PG-13. But making them more violent for the sake of being violent would be unnecessary. But I don't think a slightly darker tone would hurt the stories.

Aslan's BFF
Aslan's BFF
14 years ago

Just an idea. Wouldn't a reboot be a waste of money?

And how would the old narnia actors feel?

A reboot, to me, sounds disastrous. But maybe this can be a civilized argument? :S

MagiciansNephew1
MagiciansNephew1
14 years ago
Reply to  Aslan's BFF

Well it wouldn't be a waste at all if it made money and was successful. I don't think the cast would be hurt. I mean, they did a great job with their films, but if someone wants to take Narnia in a new direction, then new actors would be needed. It's not like they'd be rebooting because the cast wasn't good enough.

Aslan's BFF
Aslan's BFF
14 years ago
Reply to  Aslan's BFF

Then why would rebooting be a good idea?

Jack
Jack
14 years ago

If you ask me, there is no need for a reboot. I think even if another studio picks up Narnia, they should just continue with the books that have yet to be translated to film. The reason I still visit NarniaWeb during this drought from news is because of the first three installments. I know people have their beefs with the changes made, but I really enjoyed each of the Narnia movies (particularly LWW)and I want to see the rest as movies in the near future, regardless of what production company takes over. My main interest is seeing Narnia continue in some shape or form with better marketing to ensure higher ticket sales and more success. Seems like Walden made it clear they felt Disney made a mistake when they dropped The Chronicles, but now the real test will be seeing how Walden responses. I think as fans we are entitled to know what is going on. Notice how Peter Jackson keeps his fansites informed pretty much all the time. I know everyone can't be Peter Jackson, but it would be refreshing if someone like Andrew Adamson would let us know his stance on making more Narnia films and how he feels right now.

Matt Taylor
Matt Taylor
14 years ago

One thing I'm going to miss if there's a reboot is Harry Gregson-Williams' awesome soundtrack. Some of you might have heard my take on the 'Narnia theme' >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kb_lTQyWlE <<< It's a guitar cover of the 'Narnia theme.'

If there is a reboot, I want somewone really special to do the music. Howard Shore (The Lord of the Rings, The Hobbit) or Hans Zimmer (Gladiator, POTC, The Prince of Egypt) would do a great job, I think. But I love HG-W's music 🙁 David A. not so much… Hmm.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  Matt Taylor

The thing about Harry Gregson-Williams' music was that it actually provided psychological narrative. Lucy didn't have to say "Hokey Smokes! There's a forest in the closet!" The music said it for her. In VDT the music created an atmosphere, but it didn't speak a dramatic language. I would have really appreciated a "sword" theme, instead of the characters constantly saying:

"This is a sword.
A what?
A sword."

That got old.

DaughterofAslan'scountry
DaughterofAslan'scountry
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

I never thought about that, but I completely agree with you. The music does need to help narrarate, and the only one who has done it right is Harry Gregson Williams.

Jack
Jack
14 years ago

Officially depressed about now. Smurfs 2 has been given the greenlight and still no indication of The Magician's Nephew or Sliver Chair. What is the world coming to?

Matt
Matt
14 years ago

I want the Silver Chair, it is actually my favorite book. Not to mention Will Poulter is the best child actor they have had, and he was an awesome Eustace. I wouldn't mind a reboot on LWW and PC, but I wouldn't bet on it. I just wish they would stop screwing up the character's characteristics. They are supposed to be Noble, not selfish in PC and VDT(save Lucy and the book). The recast of aslan, no way, but maybe the witch. As far as TMN or TSC I say do them BOTH and release them a year apart! Aslan is the only shared character, save the witch if they try to us tilda for the Lady in TSC.

Семен
Семен
14 years ago

I'm not sure that the reboot is a solution at all. I think the audience has already got used to the pevensies during five years. It is my belief that the new films loose the magic that could be felt in the first movie and so the fans, here is the problem. I am deadsure that Mr Apted is not the best variant for the next film whatever it is. If I could, I would suggest the producers to employ Guilhermo del Toro for writing the script and for directing according to his awesome work in Hobbit and in Pan's Labirynth. I suppose that he's a really one who could understand Narnia stories in the way the audience will appreciate it. P.S. Greetings from Ukraine! P.P.S Anna Popplewell sucks)))

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Семен

Popplewell sucks? Oh well. I want Adamson back, really him or Peter Jackson!

LL
LL
14 years ago
Reply to  Семен

I'm guessing you two have met???

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  LL

Met who? Cemeh or Popplewell?

LL
LL
14 years ago
Reply to  LL

I was criticizing Cemeh's judgement of Anna Popplewell…I was wondering why he or she dislikes her so much. LOL

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  LL

I know, i generally dont say that about someone i dont know.

Aslan's BFF
Aslan's BFF
14 years ago
Reply to  LL

Well, I have a friend who whenever I do something he can't he says, "You suck." I guess when that word becomes part of you vocabulary you throw it around and think that everyone knows when you're joking or being serious.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  LL

Maybe, but some words i dont use so lightly lol.

LL
LL
14 years ago
Reply to  LL

Neither do I Dylan

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  LL

Well then, whats Cemehs reason?

LL
LL
14 years ago
Reply to  LL

Jealousy maybe?? Or perhaps cemeh's one of Popplewell's ex-boyfriends??

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  LL

Well then. Cemeh, what is your reason?

Семен
Семен
14 years ago
Reply to  LL

Do I need a reason to hate Anna Popplewell????

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago
Reply to  LL

Yes you do need a reason to hate somone. You can't just hate someone for no reason. And hate is a very strong word. What wrong has she done you?

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  LL

I dont just go walking around saying " I hate Justin Bieber". And yes, i know a lot of people that do. But really, what reason do i have to hate Justin Bieber. Maybe his singing is a little bit girly sounding (just saying), but it gives mee no reason to hate him.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  LL

So Cemeh, what is your real reason?

Семен
Семен
14 years ago
Reply to  LL

My REAL reason???? She got the part of Susan and I didn't…there, you happy now??

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  LL

Dont feel bad. Its not like your the only person whos upset about it. They can only pic one you know.

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago
Reply to  LL

Don't give up hope Cemeh. With these producers, you never know. They might need a long lost pevensie sister who dosen't get into the new Narnia so Susan can go in. Then you can play the sister in LB 🙂

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  LL

Well, it all comes down to age. You could play Jill in
SC. Besides, theres always other movies you can audition for if you really want to be an actress. Just dont take it out on Popplewell cause they chose her instead of you. Just think if you got the part, and then people started hating you cause you got the part that they wanted. That wouldnt be cool.

Семен
Семен
14 years ago
Reply to  LL

Thanks you guys for the encouragement to try out for these rolls because, though I'm a boy, I should still be able to play a woman's role.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  LL

Your welcome Cemeh.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  LL

Im not trying to be mean or anything, but did it ever occur to you that thats probably why you didnt get the role?

Zach Landis
Zach Landis
14 years ago

Hey just drop the project and pass it to Newline cinema they would do a way better job. Walden Media loyality is terrible.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Zach Landis

Cast cast cast cast it all comes down to cast. I dont think i would even enjoy a VDT movie without Poulter. Maybe that movie was really bad, but the cast was the thing that saved it. Anybody other then Tilda Swinton would fail at the role of Jadis. And anybody else doing the voice of Aslan other then Liam Neeson would sound weird (like the focus on the family audio tape they made aslan sound soooo dumb!)

Josh Marihugh
14 years ago

Whatever they do, I hope they do _NOT_ continue to magnify the role of Jadis. While Jadis is nowhere to be found in either _Caspian_ or _Dawn Treader_, they managed to shoehorn her in anyway (along with shoehorning Peter and Susan into _Dawn Treader_ despite Aslan very clearly writing them out.)

For the next movie, I'd take either _Magician's Nephew_ (although I despise Jadis), or _Silver Chair._ _The Horse and His Boy_ is almost a kid's story in comparison (and my least favorite of the series), but I wouldn't mind seeing it on the big screen either.

Swordebrithil12
14 years ago

To pass the time I've focused on the other series I enjoy. Personally I really hope that SC is made next. VDT was surprisingly bad, but who knows, another one may get a better result. MN or SC, I just hope they don't stop yet.

Seiko
Seiko
14 years ago

The step that is reached with simple logical is and always will be "The Silver Chair." It is straightfoward and one of the better stories. "Magician's Nephew" should be done afterwards as it is also one of the better stories. "Horse And His Boy" should sort of be like a latter sequel with a lower budget, as it is sort of an inner prequel and is much slower paced. Let them just do the next 2 best and all should be well. In case my words are confusing, this is my opinion:

Best To Wors:
1. Lion, Witch, And The Wardrobe
2. Voyage Of The Dawn Threader
3. The Silver Chair
4. The Magician's Nephew
5. Prince Caspian
6. The Horse And His Boy
7. The Last Battle (don't like this one at all)

Aslan's BFF
Aslan's BFF
14 years ago
Reply to  Seiko

Last Battle should be after Silver Chair because of Eustace and Jill's ages.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Aslan's BFF

Wow….. HHB is second to last. That one was one of my favorites. Anyways heres my list.
1. LWW
2. SC
3. MN
4. HHB
5. LB
6. VDT
7. PC
This is kind of weird, because for the book i like VDT better then PC, but when it comes down to the movies i like PC alot. My reason for the book being last is because it is sooooo boring.

Aslan's BFF
Aslan's BFF
14 years ago
Reply to  Aslan's BFF

Yeah. I had to push to get through Prince Caspian the book.

This may sound strange but I haven't actually /read/ LWW all the way through. I have listened to it on tape. But I've read all the other ones.

I would do:
LWW
PC
VDT
SC & MN
HHB & LB

What do you think?

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Aslan's BFF

Yes, if they should film it that way. Film MN and Sc at the same time, since they are different casts, and then do the same with HHB and LB, maybe a year afterwards. Besides, they should release the Horse and his boy before LB, just to introoduce the audience to the Calormens.

Ancientdogma
Ancientdogma
14 years ago

Long time no visit; thanks for the nice updated Puddlegum.

The Horse and his boy would seem to be the best bet to do all the things mentioned, i.e. reboot the series, include the pevensies, and add some magic back into the series. Also, it is a great stand alone story! I can't wait to see shast being scared by the cats as he prepares to head out over the desert.

For the fun of it, you could throw a cameo in for Peter starting the film out with him fighting giants in the north before spanning across narnia in 60 seconds showing panoramic views of everything we loved to see in LWW before winding up on a quiet beach in complete contrast. Doesn't really change the story at all just adds to the fun.

You could always go back later and recast eustace and do the silver chair and no really issues in The magician's nephew. Given the diverse settings of the Silver Chair I can't help but think to do it right it would be very expensive.

I've always held that The Last Battle may be impossible to make for popular consumption. However, if done as dark and depressing and true to the book with all the messages, similar in ways to The Passion of The Christ a truly talented and motivated director could pull it off. It is only in how dark and depressing it is that it is so wonderful in the end.

No offense to Ben Barnes; but the writers, director, and Gresham essentially dropped the ball when they cast someone his age for a part that was meant for a boy. In one fell swoop the eliminated 1/2 the magic from Narnia. Writing PC as a action flick did the rest. The tried to bring magic back into VOTD, but they did the opposite in the exceptional poor adapation skipping from one action scene to the next and the US audience was even less impressed.

Do The Horse and His Boy next. Pull the magic forward from LWW and leave behind the awful adaptions of PC and VOTD. Make the movie again true to the book inclusive of the young ages, the magic, and let the money come in because people fall in love with the movie (thus becoming a box office success much like LWW). The relationship between Shasta and Aravis is MAGIC! do not write it out of the script. Don't have a kiss at the end between them, if you must have an extended ending inclusive of the future that is in the book but not part of the story really.

I have hope that with a new focus back on the magic of the books and in the books that we can see a couple more wonderful movies.

gn
gn
14 years ago
Reply to  Ancientdogma

I would LOVE to see a movie version of The Horse and His Boy. Of all the options, it's the one I'd most like to see done. Sadly, I don't think the Council on American-Islamic Relations would go for it, and they have veto power over Hollywood. In this post-9/11 world, we can't have villains that look suspiciously like members of the religion of peace. It would simply be too big of a stretch. Even if they were based on an idealized ancient Persia.
(Actually, I see Last Battle problems too, where their god turns out to be the devil. Maybe they can worship the Green Mist. I don't think actual mist worshippers have a big lobby in Hollywood.)
Maybe the Calormenes could be descended from neo-Nazis instead, like in "The Sum of All Fears." Of course, they'd have to change some of the proverbs: "Natural affection is stronger than barbed wire and more precious than heavy water."
But seriously, if they do The Horse and His Boy, I can see where they might want to change the name for mass audiences, and perhaps go with one of Lewis' rejected originals. Narnia and the North has more punch and could avoid "colon symdrome" by getting Narnia in the title.
I'm actually kind of surprised at Lewis for suggesting "Cor of Archenland." Why not just suggest, "The Kid Turns Out To Be A Prince At the End"?
I'd rather they change the name than the content. After all, HHB wasn't Lewis' first choice.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  gn

I think the Horse and His Boy is an excellent title. It sells the relationship between Shasta and Bree, which is both central to the story, and a lot of fun.

Also, I don't see why having the Calormenes look Arab is absolutely essential to the story. They can always pull a Star Trek and create a whole new culture from scratch.

StevoBaggins
StevoBaggins
14 years ago
Reply to  gn

Also, not all Calormenes are bad. Aravis is one of the main characters of HHB, and her actions are heroic. In The Last Battle, Emeth finds himself in Aslan's Country. After his encounter with Aslan, HHB tells that Rabadash was a good and fair ruler.

gn
gn
14 years ago
Reply to  gn

Fair enough, Anhun, about the culture change. As long as we're agreed that the Calormenes as portrayed is out of the question. 🙂
Maybe they could be based on intolerant, evangelical Christians. That seems to be a more popular and recognizable Hollywood villain. As long as it could be done in the spirit of Lewis' original beliefs. On the other hand, are Lewis' original beliefs really that important?
Actually, if Douglas Gresham is the man I take him to be, it probably never entered his mind to be authentic on that particular point.
I like HHB as a title. I was only suggesting that for mass audiences, it might come off sounding a little juvenile.
On the other hand, these mass audiences HAVE just sat through "Dawn Treader". 🙂

Ancientdogma
Ancientdogma
14 years ago
Reply to  gn

Calormen= Tea Party politicians! Funny Ideas! I love it.

DaughterofAslan'scountry
DaughterofAslan'scountry
14 years ago
Reply to  gn

If Christian religions, and I mean christian religions, not cultures, can be portrayed as evil, then why would it be wrong to portray a people, not a religion, as enemies to Narnia? The culture is similiar to the middle east before islam came about.
Also, in LOTR, the people who fight on Sauron's side similiar to middle eastern culture.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  gn

I think if they were to potray the Calormens, they should probably use the ancient Persia idea.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  Ancientdogma

Ancientdogma, I absolutely love your ideas, but I disagree with you on the cost of filming SC.

I've done google image searches on locations, and I'm confident that Silver Chair could be filmed entirely in Scotland.

HHB is actually much more diverse, in terms of terrain. The could film it in Western Australia, but even that would involve some traveling around to different parts of WA.

Ancientdogma
Ancientdogma
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

I am sure you could find an appropriate swamp, open grass area and mountains in new zealand (or even Washington state). My biggest concern is how you do the subterrainan world. I fear without a lot of money it could end up being very poor. I wonder how much it cost to do the dwarven kingdom in the first LOTR film. If it were anything less then that scale it would be a shame.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

Actually, they have caves in Scotland:

http://www.pdnphotooftheday.com/2010/01/3176

That being said, most of the Underland scenes should be done in a studio. Location shoots aren't particularly desirable for cave/underground scenes.

Ancientdogma
Ancientdogma
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

WOW! Fabulous cave. I may have to put that on my bucket list. Yet another reason to go to new zealand!

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

Those caves are so cool! Has anybody seen the giant crystal caves on tv? man they are amazing!

Семен
Семен
14 years ago

my favourite book is horse and his boy because in this story the main characters of LWMW are adult.

Семен
Семен
14 years ago

Who knows, are there any news about VDT PC game?!

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago
Reply to  Семен

They cancled it a long time ago. I was dissapointed but in a way not really. The other two games were lame. I think they shouldn't reboot the movies, but they should reboot video games. Have you ever played Star Wars Battlefront? I think a Narnia version of that game would be cool.

gn
gn
14 years ago

Maybe they felt a "Voyage of the Dawn Treader" video game was redundant.
It's ironic, really. A case could be made that the entire movie was really only designed to market a video game that never materialized. (Kind of like Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory; they inadvertently produced a classic trying to market a candy they never made. A pity that they didn't inadvertently produce a classic this time.)

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

Dude, a VDT video game would be lame. Your right, they should start rebooting the video games, and make them have really good graphics. Not the crap that Prince Caspian videogame had.

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago

And it would be nice if they let you have a free play mode and a story mode (like the Lego games). The story mode would be when you play as the charecters of that level in the story (Like Eustace, Puddleglum, Jill, and Prince Ralian in the fight agaist the LotGK). And Free Play would be you can play as any one in any level (Like you could play as Tirian and Tumnus in the same level). I also like the idea of an actual "Lego Narnia" game. That would be fun.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

I would like that, a Narnia game were once youve unlocked every thing, you can do freeplay. And i actually stand corrected for my comment on the PC vid game, the graphics were actually pretty good for the PS3, but the Wii graphics and ds graphics wrent the best.

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago

Yeah. Neither was the PS2's grapics. A game I'm looking to getting is NCAA Football 2012. I'm a big college football fan and the next game looks great.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

Whats ur fav team? Im a Longhorns fan, so HOOK EM HORNS!!! But yah, the new one they have coming out looks good.

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago

I am a die-hard USC Trojans football fan. My whole family is. While we were living in SO Cal we were season ticket holders. I still haven't forgiven the Longhorns for that National Chamionship a few yers back 😉

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

Oh, I used to live in So Cal. And I used to root for them a lot. The Horns and USC were my two fav teams and the national champship game tor me apart. Ever since the bowl ban, id say im leaning towards the longhorns. But still, you guys have a better quarter back then we doo.

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago

I think those punishments were unfair. And if the NCAA is going to punish one team with a bowl band, you should do that to everyone else who did what Reggie Bush did. On another note, our QB, Matt Barkley is a relly big Christian. He goes on mission trips to africa durring the off season. Really cool guy.

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago

What I ment to say was: "And if the NCAA is going to punish one team with a bowl band, 'THEY' (Not 'you'. Sorry for the typo) should do that to everyone else who did what Reggie Bush did."

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

I completely agree with you. Besides, didnt Matt Barkley go to Matire Dei?

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago

Yeah I think so. We met him after an away game. He is really nice. We also met Lane Kiffin. A funny moment happened when my mom and dad were both taking a picture of us and they bumped in to each other. Everyone who saw it thought it was funny (fans, the few coaches and players that were out at that moment, and us) except for Kniffin. He just kind of rolled his eyes. He always seems so grumpy 🙂 I don't think i've seen him smile.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

Ha! Thats funny! Man, he does seem grumpy. Maybe it was all those wasted years with the Oakland raiders that made him that way lol.

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago

LOL! Do you watch College Gameday on ESPN? That is my favorite show. Makes me feel really excited about College Football.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

That show is really good. I like when they put on the mascot heads, thats allways funny to watch.

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago

Every fall Saturday morning I wake up at 5:30 to watch Star Wars: The Clone Wars (This show records on Friday night, but we are usually watching shows with our family at that time), Then Gameday starts at 6 on ESPNU, then at 7 the show switches over to ESPN, and we watch it there till it finishes at 9. Did you hear about what's happening at Miami University right now? 72 guys were to have allegedly taken extra benifits from a ex-convict. What's USC's one guy compaired to 72??? That makes USC look a lot better then they did yesterday morning 🙂

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

Yeah, they are saying the penalties are so severe, that they actually might get the death penalty. There has only been like one team who got the death penalty, and that was SMU back in the 70s. I think it is unfair that USC is put to shame for only a few people when youve got Miami here. Yeesh…. the way this system is set up is very flawed. I think its time for something other then the BCS for a change. Im so happy that the NFL season is back, and im hoping that my team does well this year(NY Giants). You got a fav NFL team?

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago

SMU is till trying to get back to how they were before the Death Penalty. That was crazy. on another note I agree. The BCS is not working out. The NCAA should be cleaned out and give consisetent and fair punishments. I don't have a particular favorite NFL team. I just watch a game and cheer for the team with the most former USC players 🙂 However I'm really excited for the NFL season this year because my extended family is playing Fantasy Football this year. I've never played but my uncle showed me how it works and it looks like a lot of fun 🙂

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

Sweet. Ive played fantasy football before. I am currently in a fantasy baseball season, and trust me, fantasy football is better. Mostly because youve got only 16 in football,and fantasy baseball takes waaaayyy longer and it gets boring after a while.

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago

I'll reemember that. Thanks! Do you have a favorite baseball team? Mine is the Angels.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

GO RED SOX!!! I know, i like teams all over the country lol (NY Giants, Longhorns,Red Sox, Celtics, Bruins). But mostly in New England, cause i used to live there also (yeah, my family has moved alot).

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago

I bet New England is really pretty in the Fall. That's cool that you like teams all over. All my favorite teams are pretty much located in So Cal 🙂

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

Yep! it is really pretty in the fall.

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago

Cool!

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

So cal has awesome weather, especially San Diego, its like 70 degrees ALL YEAR LONG. Tex on the other hand…….. 115 degrees in the summer, 20-40 degrees in the winter (texas isnt fun lol).

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago

70 degrees is nice. We lived is a very hot part of SC. Our weather was in the Winter 60 degrees at the coldest and every other part of the year is 100 🙂

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

Your right, there are hot parts of So cal. Was it more inland? Cuuase areas like west-southern cal are pretty hot. Like El Centro, it gets hot out there. Actually it gets pretty cold too. I remeber on a rode trip with my family we drove through there and it started to snow! It was crazy. They are kinda in the middle of the desert, but right next to a group of mountains, so they get quite a mixtuere of weather.

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago

It was near Riverside County. I'm not going to be able to go on the internet for a couple days so I won't be able to reply anymore. Computer problems. I ejoyed talking to you! Thanks!

dominiclovesnarnia
dominiclovesnarnia
14 years ago

I would be happy if they reboot the "Narnia" series, and start with "The Magicians Nephew", and after finishing it, make "LWW, PC, VDT, SC, HHB, and LB". And I hope they could find a very good director that can understand what "Narnia" is, and find a new script writer that can adapt the book very well, like Steve Kloves who did "Harry Potter". And I would be happy if they will release it on November or December either 2014 or 2015. That's one of the many reasons that I want them to reboot it or start it all over again, the first and second movie that Andrew Adamson did are both awesome, but "THE VOYAGE OF THE DAWN TREADER? it's rubbish! SO START REBOOTING IT WALDEN MEDIA AND 20TH CENTURY FOX. PLEASE! 🙂

Hiking Peter
Hiking Peter
14 years ago

And why would that be the solution?

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Hiking Peter

Why a reboot, wasnt LWW and PC good enogh for you? Maybe they slipped up on VDT, but they do have a chance to redeem themselves with either SC/MN, which I think they can accomplish well. My greatest fear is them ruining the plot and using "the green mist" in any other Narnia films.

farsight-mssngr
farsight-mssngr
14 years ago

NO REBOOTING Please!
Narnia Production team should realize their mistakes in making the films. For some reasons like: Adding new scenes not from the book. re-arranging scenes from the book. Not showing the real messages from the book, and much more.
They just need to have the focus points from the book. Remove the not-so-important scenes, give a big focus on the-very-important scenes, make it fantastical and always remember the true message and storyline from the book.
Just make all Narnia books into the big-screen. 4 more to go!

Семен
Семен
14 years ago

I agree. The first 3 films were good enough not to reboot them. I hope thenext 4 films will be fantastic and more similar to Harry Potter series)

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