Opinion: Sequel? Prequel? Reboot? What now?

NEWS DROUGHT ALERT!

In the middle of a news drought, fans have a tendency to let their imaginations run wild on what the future could hold. In this video, I embrace that tendency and examine possible routes Walden Media could take for a fourth Narnia film.

Outline:

1. Sequel: The Silver Chair

  • Fourth book to be published (1953)
  • Logical next chapter
  • Will Poulter’s age
  • Set up in Dawn Treader film

2. Prequel: The Magician’s Nephew

  • More popular book
  • Clear connection to the first film
  • The opportunity to give Tilda Swinton a prominent role again.

3. Reboot: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe

  • Start from scratch: New cast, new crew
  • Would need to be fundamentally different from Adamson’s version. (Animation? PG13?)

4. Reboot: The Magician’s Nephew

  • Re-cast Aslan and The White Witch

5. Prequel (to VDT): The Horse and His Boy

  • The Pevensies would likley be given bigger roles

6. Re-read the books! I have read each book a dozen times, and I’m still discovering new things.

How would you feel if Walden announced a LWW reboot? Scroll to the bottom of the homepage and vote now!

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QueenLucy
QueenLucy
14 years ago

I'm going to be blunt. I think rebooting the series would be very dumb. I hope they the common sense to NOT do that! The series is wonderful right now. 🙂

Fireflower
Fireflower
14 years ago
Reply to  QueenLucy

I agree!

narnian resident
narnian resident
14 years ago
Reply to  QueenLucy

Agree agree! and considering the struggles they're having right now with the current franchise anyway, it would be very silly, and plain stupid, to try to reboot. most likely they would get much less success. like, MUCH less success.

QueenLucy
QueenLucy
14 years ago

Exactly, and I think that the audiences that aren't die-hard narnia fans and don't keep up with narnia news would be really confused if they rebooted. My dream is that they would make SC and MN at the same time. 🙂 I know that's probably out the question though financially. Oh well, I'm just dreaming. 🙂

D.T.
D.T.
14 years ago

hello! remember me?
I think that if they reboot the seires many people would complain. because the cast is diffent and we are so used to this cast that it would be odd for someone other then gorgie henly to say
"I'm lucy".
I personally want the silver chair to be next, but the MN
is ok too as long as they still make the movies.

High Queene Shelly Belly
High Queene Shelly Belly
14 years ago
Reply to  QueenLucy

i wouldn't mind seeing an intense animated version that is true to the books AFTER they do all the movies for this series.

QueenLucy
QueenLucy
14 years ago

Agreed. 🙂

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

What do ya mean by inetense? And would it be cartoon or animated? I just cant see neither of them being intense.

High Queene Shelly Belly
High Queene Shelly Belly
14 years ago

i mean animated, but realistic, not goofy-like, or kiddish. like japanese anime 'movies have cool scenery and effects and a serious plot. or the animated movie "Heavy Metal" go look for some screenshots of it), not like the 70's narnia tv movie, with hanna barbera scooby doo like characters. true to the plot, no weird green mist. intelligent and spiritual. not so jacked up, action packed to need a monster around every corner to fight. like family radio theater version, only visual.THE REAL NARNIA!

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

That would be cool, but they shouldnt make it an animated movie, they should make it a tv series.

Lady of the Green Kirtle
Lady of the Green Kirtle
14 years ago
Reply to  QueenLucy

I agree, it's way too soon for a reboot. It would just seem like a knock-off at this point, even if it is made by the same company. I just want to see the series be finished as it is now, I think it will be worth it in the long run. I know the movies haven't been doing well in the box offices, but there have been other movies in the past that have done poorly in the box office but later became classics, such as The Wizard of Oz or The Princess Bride, perhaps Narnia will follow in their foot steps.

Lady of the Green Kirtle
Lady of the Green Kirtle
14 years ago

Maybe in about 20 or 30 years, when the technology has improved enough to make it worth it and there's a new generation of Narnia fans ready for something new

Just Queen, not High Queen
Just Queen, not High Queen
14 years ago

I have a feeling that might happen. Some people forget the long-lasting effect movies have on us, and how what happens to Narnia now will effect future generations. (Reason why they should not reboot and reason to do Silver Chair next, so Will doesn't get too old and future generations don't ponder at this.)

CmdrHawk
CmdrHawk
14 years ago
Reply to  QueenLucy

Totally agree! Go for sequel! Logical next chapter!

Xandy
Xandy
14 years ago
Reply to  CmdrHawk

This does look prmoisnig. I'll keep coming back for more.

In Aslan's Country
In Aslan's Country
14 years ago
Reply to  QueenLucy

I gotta be honest with all you narniawebers as much as I hate to say this, it seems to me that their isn't going to be a fourth Narnia movie. Because if there were we would have heard something by now. The fact that it's taking this long to get any bit of news form Walden Media and/or Fox is not a good sign. And also because VDT made less money than Prince Caspian.
I hate to sound like a downer and I hope I'm wrong, I really do, I want them to make all seven Narnia books into movies as much as all of you. But if we do get any sort of news about the fourth Narnia, I got a bad feeling that it's not going to be good unfortunately.

JillPoleLovestheNazgul
JillPoleLovestheNazgul
14 years ago
Reply to  QueenLucy

Thats exactly what i thought when i first read this!!! its also common sense to do the silver chair next cause of will poulter, u cant replace him just like u cant replace the other actors and have a fresh start, they're all perfect, its dumb even thinking about it
oh and i think johnny depp should play puddleglum hehe 😉

LockHood
LockHood
14 years ago
Reply to  QueenLucy

No reboot PLEASE . The movies' declining sales is cos of increasing improvisation. They stayed almost true to the book in LWW , and so offcourse it did the best.

Movie makers think ppl watch movies for the stupid kiss scenes. In Prince Caspian, they were kinda purposely making Peter do unpopular stuff to make Caspian look good.

And they should do silver chair next.It would spoil the surprises too early to explain everything with MN immediately. Kindly follow the books – plot , order and all.

Narnia #1 Fan
Narnia #1 Fan
14 years ago
Reply to  QueenLucy

I can't even explain how much I agree!! That is the most ridiculous idea IN THE WORLD! Sorry, that's just my opinion. 😉

In Aslan's Country
In Aslan's Country
14 years ago
Reply to  QueenLucy

COME ON Walden Media, give us something, any bit of news about the future of the Narnia series. Just at least let us fans know that you haven't given up on the series just yet, because it still has a really big fan base. The sooner you realize that the Narnia movies have the potential to be just as successful as The Lord of the Rings and the Harry Potter movies if put in the hands of the right filmakers who care passionately about the books, the sooner we can have a fourth Narnia movie that's just as good as The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe was if not better.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago

Gpuddle, in your commentary, you said that, if they do Silver Chair, Will Poulter would have to carry the movie. You're ignoring the possibility that they could replace him, which I think they should. I mean, he's mature-looking enough to do "love" scenes in other movies, but he's supposed to play a early or pre-adolescent in Narnia?

You also failed to mention the point that MN would have brand new protagonists, which would make it difficult to sell as a sequel or prequel. SC, on the other hand, has dynamic characters, strong arcs, and an easily comprehensible plot, making it much easier to sell on its own merits.

glumPuddle
glumPuddle
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

The character Eustace would essentially have to carry the marketing of SC as a sequel. The reason studios make a sequel in the first place is that they believe audiences liked one film and would like to see more of it. Eustace is the only carry-over from VDT (besides Aslan). The success of failure of the marketing campaign would rest on audiences desire to see Eustace.
If Eustace had been very popular with audiences, I think SC would have been green-lit by now.

As for MN, it would have the White Witch in a prominent role, and a very strong marketable connection to LWW.

DaughterofAslan'scountry
DaughterofAslan'scountry
14 years ago
Reply to  glumPuddle

Have'nt you forgotten about Jill Pole? She's the other main character in SC! She would also carry the movie, especially since she's by herself for a while.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  glumPuddle

First of all, I agree that SC has limited marketability as just a sequel.

MN, on the other hand, has the opposite problem in that it has little marketability for its own sake (I agree with narnia21's comments above). It's also problematic as a continuation of the franchise as a whole, because there is no continuity or connection with the previous installment. Though, I admit this isn't a huge concern given the limited popularity of VDT. Basically, they can only market it based on its connection to LWW. Even that is tricky for a number of reasons:

1. By the time MN comes out, LWW will be 8 years old at least. That's a long time for general audiences to stay excited about a movie.

2. Between PC alienating a lot of families, and VDT alienating a lot of the more mature audiences, many Americans have become wary of the Narnia brand name. Another marketing campaign that shoves the Lion and the Witch in their faces and tells people to "come see this movie because you liked LWW so much" is unlikely to go over well. There is no indication that people "want to see more" without some reassurance that they'll actually enjoy what they'll see.

3. It doesn't feature any of the protagonists from LWW. Polly is a completely new character, and Digory is a minor character from LWW played by a completely different actor. Casual fans tend to interpret sequels without any of the original heroes as a sign that a series is going down hill.

"Narnia" won't sell itself. Any future Narnia movie has to be marketed with the following approach: "Come see this movie because it's a REALLY GOOD MOVIE." If they don't do that, I can't hold out much hope for the success of Narnia 4.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  glumPuddle

Oh, and they need to start out by making a really good movie.

glumPuddle
glumPuddle
14 years ago
Reply to  glumPuddle

"Casual fans tend to interpret sequels without any of the original heroes as a sign that a series is going down hill."

Good point, this is often true. But certainly not always.
Think of MN as a reboot that doesn't break continuity. Example: "X-Men: First Class." It's supposed to be in continuity with the other X-films, but it's all new actors, a new look, new feel, new everything. It performs the function of a reboot. XMFC released twelve years after the original X-Men. For MN…heck, it might even be better if they waited another 5-7 years to make it.

“MN, on the other hand, has the opposite problem in that it has little marketability for its own sake.”

For a sequel, marketability for its own sake is not NEARLY as important as familiarity. I think you could have a trailer that looks very exciting, but if it’s a sequel to a movie people didn’t like, you still might not go see it. This is why I say that a LWW prequel would be more marketable than VDT sequel.

"It doesn’t feature any of the protagonists from LWW."

It does have the White Witch though, and you can be sure she will be the focus of the marketing campaign. The might as well call the movie “The White Witch Begins.” I think a marketing campaign that showed shots of her before she was white, and promised to show her origin, might be enough to make many casual moviegoers go "hmmmmm."

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  glumPuddle

I'm not sure why you're comparing First Class to MN. While FC affirmed the X-Men franchise's stability in the foreign box office, it continued the downward trend in domestic returns that was set by Origins: Wolverine. FC had the weakest domestic box office in the history of the franchise. If MN performs comparably, Narnia is dead in the water.

glumPuddle
glumPuddle
14 years ago
Reply to  glumPuddle

I was not making a box office comparison. I was just comparing them as reboots that don't break continuity.

Making SC next would be like making a movie all about the character Storm in X-Men.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  glumPuddle

We're discussing marketing potential, though. While FC proves, from an artistic point of view, that a prequel can be made, it also proves that a prequel won't sell itself. For all we know, a movie all about Storm might have fared better.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  glumPuddle

Hmmmm, last i knew, this was Narniaweb, not Xmenweb lol.

Daniel H.
Daniel H.
14 years ago

Wait 5 years and reboot, starting with Magician's Nephew. The series has been a big disappointment in adaptation and overall quality.

narnian21
narnian21
14 years ago
Reply to  Daniel H.

The only thing I don't like about that is that MN is way more powerful and entertaining as a prequel than a stand alone movie and having LWW as a sequel. But then again LWW has already been adapted so maybe MN could serve as both a prequel and a reboot

SirCC
SirCC
14 years ago

If they do SC, then they can take as long as they wish to finish the rest of them. Will Poulter is a bit old, but if they do it soon he could easily be used; having him a bit older wouldn't be a terrible thing, just as long as they don't go through some romance garbage with him and Jill, like PC, then it wouldn't be a problem. Having him a bit older might actually sell it better, since its definitely one of the darkest of the stories.

You have to remember, even though it would be nice to see the most faithful adaptation of Lewis's books, just as long as they are faithful to his message and theology, then they do what Lewis would have wanted. A few little changes, like age or even a bit of small story tweaks, are fine as long as they stay faithful to Lewis's messages and theology. I believe it was Lewis himself who said that story is merely a kind of tool to be used to express a more important message. They did this mostly with VDT, with a few exceptions. Even though, a lot of what they used was from his other work (e.g. Till We Have Faces), it still expressed Lewis to most extent, mostly.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  SirCC

Actually, Lewis said that he started out as just fantasy imagery, which he then turned into a story. The messages and theology just happened to find their way in.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

Oops, I mean, he started with imagery, not AS imagery. [blushing]

SirCC
SirCC
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

Yes, thats right, and if you read his earlier work you get that…but, as he developed his understanding of story and story's use, this became his fundamental idea. This is actually the idea which resulted in him coming to Christ. Having studied and become an expert on classic lit and mythology, Lewis learned, from Tolkien, that within the basis of any story (even the most obnoxiously false ones) there lies ideologies of real Truth, this Truth being that of God's. So, Lewis, with this idea in mind, wrote stories that centered on this Truth, simply using story as a tool to communicate the fundamental Truth of God.

Therefore, if they made a Narnia movie that followed Lewis's stories absolutely perfectly (as absolute as it could be), yet wandered from this Truth (which was his purpose), then it would be far worse than a movie which mostly (such as VDT) followed the story (which wasn't his main purpose), yet kept well on track with this Truth. Lewis would not be happy about a movie that had nothing to do with this Truth, yet just told a nice story. Sure, there would be some truth here and there. But if you make a Narnia film, then it HAS to center around this Truth. Other wise you've wasted your time, and all that Lewis fought for.

Thee Narnian Meerkat
Thee Narnian Meerkat
14 years ago

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, NOOOOOO to the reboots!!!!!!! It will just ruin the WHOOOOOLE thing!!!! JUST DO THE SILVER CHAIR ALREADYYYYYY!!!!!!

Can't watch video. :/ Adobe Flash Player not working… >_<

Fireflower
Fireflower
14 years ago

Amen!!! No REBOOTS!

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Fireflower

I absolutley agree with you

Just Queen, not High Queen
Just Queen, not High Queen
14 years ago
Reply to  Fireflower

Ditto!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Freya
Freya
14 years ago

This is all really depressing. I'm gonna go read HHB again and despair about he fact that I will probably never see this fantastic piece of art made into a movie, and I really don't understand why.

I mean, you have it all in HHB: two kids who have troublesome lives and dreams of the faraway magical land of Narnia, their dangers of getting there, a lost prince, the saving of a country, the Pevensies, a battle, and a happy ending. Who could seriously ask for a better story for a movie? It baffles me that the people from Walden manage to overlook this.

HHB will forever be my favourite Narnia book, at least I'll still have that.

Семен
Семен
14 years ago
Reply to  Freya

oh yeah? that's my fvourite one too. Have you read it's Ukrainian variant? It's awesome!

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Семен

Why is the Ukrainian version awesome?

High Queene Shelly Belly
High Queene Shelly Belly
14 years ago
Reply to  Freya

agreed, HHB would make a totally awesome, exciting movie, and they could bring back the Pevensies more too, since they don't seem to mind doin that- I'd love to see them all grown up!

moonspinner
moonspinner
14 years ago
Reply to  Freya

LOL! HHB is my favorite of the Narnia books… and I am actually going to read it again now and REJOICE at the idea that this fantastic piece of literature will never be tainted by a wishy-washy adaptation that will cut out the great spiritual message at its core and turn it into Prince of Persia part 2.

Freya
Freya
14 years ago
Reply to  moonspinner

Oh dear, no Prince of Persia part two, the thought makes me cringe. You are right though, HBB is too good a book to be messed up. But if done right, it would have the potential of greatness and would be just as magical as LWW. Like I said, I am surprised that the people from Walden cannot see this, clearly they haven't read the book. Maybe it's just as well.
That being said, I've enjoyed all three movies made, LWW most though. The Harry Potter series has taught me to enjoy the movies separately from the books, because you can only fit so much into a movie. So I like the movies for what they are, and I love the cast, they all did excellent jobs. But the books remain the true works of art.

narnian resident
narnian resident
14 years ago

i choose number 6 😉
Reboots begone. that idea does not exist. REPEAT! that idea does not exist!

Fireflower
Fireflower
14 years ago

Ditto!!

Estefanía
Estefanía
14 years ago

I'm not agree with a reboot!! I love narnia movies!!and I really want a prequel or a sequel… in my own opinion, the best option is the magician's nephew

High Queene Shelly Belly
High Queene Shelly Belly
14 years ago

cool production values on your video, Glum. 🙂 they also could go with SC, but make ben barnes the star, since he's really gotten big now. that would be the marquee value, he's getting more famous than tilda now, with the general public. it would be nice to have ONE movie without the white witch. center it on ben and lilliandril, their life story, then bring in eustace and jill. that way its not all on eustace's shoulders. get somebody real cool for glumpuddle, that everyone loves. SC could be cool that way. MN is fine too. then bring back ALL pevensies for HHB.

Samuel
Samuel
14 years ago

That is an interesting Idea, though as there is almost no info caspian and liliandils relationship I don't think I would like to see what they would come up with for a entire movie or even half of a movie. You might, however, be able to do something like a pixar-esque credits/intro segment focusing on their relationship and ending with their son being born, then skip to Experiment House, maybe Eustace and Jill are in a biology room where they might have a large green snake as forshadowing… Although describing that, it's essentially what they did in Prince Caspian, except it should be a shorter, more tightly paced montage with little to no dialog. No forshadowing with a lion this time because; well; Experiment house should be decidedly un-pevensie friendly, very cold and stoic…

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  Samuel

I like the idea of the intro sequence, but I think it should end with Ben Barnes reading 6-year-old Rilian a picture book about a sulky boy who turns into a dragon . . . then fade to Eustace walking around the grounds in Experiment House. Still no need for dialogue, but it would make for a better transition.

In marketing, however, I still maintain that if they approach it from a Narnia-gimmick perspective, no one will show up, not in America any how.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Samuel

I actually like your idea, it would transition nicely.

High Queene Shelly Belly
High Queene Shelly Belly
14 years ago
Reply to  Samuel

awesome, sam and anhun should write it, it would prob come out better! great ideas!!

High Queene Shelly Belly
High Queene Shelly Belly
14 years ago
Reply to  Samuel

i'd love a happy wedding with casp n lil, im sick of battles! how bout some happy scenes for once! ya know, character development first, so we actually care if they are in danger…….

DaughterofAslan'scountry
DaughterofAslan'scountry
14 years ago

I was thinking that they should do something like an intro segment also. Especially since they had nothing in VDT. When I saw VDT, I was very dissapointed that they had nothiing with Caspian and Lilliandil, who's Caspian's future wife, but they had a Susan and Caspian romance in PC.

High Queene Shelly Belly
High Queene Shelly Belly
14 years ago

yeah, i really wanted to see a romance this time. they were probably afraid it would make caspian look lika a two timer, though.

Lucia
Lucia
14 years ago

I hope they will make sequel.I think Andrew's script of PC was not very good,but I loved LWW!
And VDT was really nice,in my opinion 🙂
I hope Micheal will return as a director,and Andrew as a producer.
The casts of the 3 films were great.I loved their acting very much!I know everything is not on willP's shoulder(like shelly belly says),but still I want them to come back 😉

Roger
Roger
14 years ago

I might go along with a reboot IF they corrected the defects of the existing films, no green mist and no sun setting in the east. I would also favor that the screenwriters mess with the C. S. Lewis stories less. They might have to bring in some big-name actors to help sell the movies. The big thing would be to have better marketing, LWW had very good marketing, but the others did not. The director has to be a true fan of the books.

High Queene Shelly Belly
High Queene Shelly Belly
14 years ago
Reply to  Roger

yeah, wish they could just remake VDT !!

Chronicle
Chronicle
14 years ago

What would be the point of a reboot? The existing films are fine. I hope they will do Silver Chair next and this time promote it.

David
David
14 years ago
Reply to  Chronicle

Chronicle, are you really satisfied with the fruit of this series? Look at the Harry Potter series – they weren't looking to shut down after the first three, in fact they found a way to stretch it into eight. And a theme park attaction from Harry Potter….Wouldn't it have been a thrill to walk into Narnia! So to say the series is fine…I just had a much bigger dream for this fanchise than to be debating/speculating after 3 movies if a fourth one was in the works. I think most Narnia fans did and I think it is why this discussion is something that most of us are very passionate about – I don't see it as being anoyone's fault (though the PC liberties with the story might be a good place to start looking in my opinion)but the bottom line is HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN WITH SUCH A GREAT WORK OF LITERATURE? SOMETHING WENT VERY WRONG THAT WE WOULD BE IN THIS POSITION! I almost feel like a reboot is analogous to an election that votes out the incumbent and says in a manner of speaking, "Why should we give you another term when you brought us…."

Samuel
Samuel
14 years ago

I was thinking on this subject the other day. And I think I wouldn't mind a complete reboot, IF they set up certain parameters in advance that would guide the construction of the series as a whole. each movie should be unique, with different stylings like the individual books, and yet they should flow together. The current series feels disjointed, because in part they felt like they had to correct the "huge blunders" in prince caspian, rather than making a third story that still flowed nicely with the other two {sure it would have been better if Caspian didn't have a spanish accent to begin with, but that wasn't a big enough goof to change him completely in VOTD} In the current series with the story changes to VOTD, in order to make SC fit they will most likely have to make even MORE changes to make it fit, making the LOTGK even more GREEN and SMOKY (if you catch my drift) which would in turn mean altering the LB even more.

Pre-planning is probably the most important thing I suggest they do, and DON'T change your mind after the second movie doesn't meet expectations [looking at you, disney]

1. Begin to write ALL the scripts, thinking of tie-ins and over arching themes for the un booklearned, but pick themes that book fans will like. The Land of Narnia, Aslan, and Exploration of a strange land, and changed lives, come to mind.

2.Plan to film each of the Pevensies and Eustaces movies 6 months apart so that child ages would not change too much, film HHB and MN concurrently and then release movies one to two years apart.

3.Again focusing on the major themes, decide on a story order that would not place too much emphasis on individual characters and would prepare movie go-ers to not expect the pevensies or the WW in each movie.

These three principles don't define the movies, but I think if followed they would make the entire series more enjoyable. I'd like the sound of LWW, HHB, PC, VOTD, SC, MN, LB. One major change I would do to the stories I've outlined somewhere else on the posts, is to make MN and LB a two-part story allowing you to see the full story ark of Narnia, begin MN with the meeting of "friends of Narnia" with Digory and Polly explaining the creation of Narnia, and end MN with the vision of King Tirian asking for help, and everyone getting on the train to get the rings. LB would begin with the same scenes told from king Tirians perspective. Release these 6 months apart…

Queen Nellie
Queen Nellie
14 years ago
Reply to  Samuel

4. MAKE THE CHILDREN YOUNGER TO START WITH!!! if they do that then they wont have an almost 20 year old playing the part of Eustace (amung other things)

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  Queen Nellie

Like in the Harry Potter series, Emma Watson was 2 years under-age for the part when they did the first movie. It can be done.

Sam
Sam
14 years ago
Reply to  Queen Nellie

I semi agree with that point, but honestly when I read the books to begin I imagined them in my head as older. I thinked I wouldn't go much more than a year younger. If they plan the production schedule as I've said before(every 6 months) they shouldn't age more than 5 years from the LWW to LB.

farsight-mssngr
farsight-mssngr
14 years ago

NO REBOOTS
My reasons to make Narnia 4 as the:
The Silver Chair:
Next film cause:
-It's the next story right after VDT.-The last story of Caspian's triad.-Will Poulter's age.
Later film cause:
-The darkness of the book.-Lowest book ever sold in the series.
The Magician's Nephew:
Next Film cause:
-It's very magical story for it narrates the story of the creation.-Highest book ever sold second to LWW.
Later film cause:-Pulter's age will be too old if MN is filmed next.-Not the next story after VDT (It's the prequel)
P.S. -This is just my knowledge on why to film SC or MN next.
P.S. Let us Please pray for the people of London especially Henley, Keynes, Popplewell and Poulter for their safeness and protection at all times.

High Queene Shelly Belly
High Queene Shelly Belly
14 years ago

ben barnes lives right in london, i think, good thing he's in CT , usa right now-

V
V
14 years ago

Very good video. Like I have alwasy said, the very thing that made/makes the Chronicles of Narnia books so original and in a class by itself (do not compare to the Lord Of The Rings or Potter) is Lewis' use of non-traditional main characters. In all seven books, the main characters are two, the Land of Narnia and Aslan. Everyone else are supporting characters. This is why it is so easy to change characters throughout the series and have it work so well (at least from a literary standpoint). It sucks for film and marketing because the movie viewing public have been trained to want and think they need a certain formula. Lewis wrote the books as another way of teaching the character and ways of our Lord Jesus Christ. In real life, it's all about Jesus and what He has done for us and through us. I think the same way in the books. It's all about Aslan and Narnia and how they have shaped all those who come in contact with the country and its Creator King, Aslan. The executives need to just pick up where they left off and continue the series with The Silver Chair. Get a better writer and director and stick to the sentiments of the author and the message. These books have changed my life and are very dear to me. I so want to see them all made. I still believe in their relevance and message. Heres to hoping they wisen up and get back to work on the series.

Queen Nellie
Queen Nellie
14 years ago
Reply to  V

AGREED, one of the (many)things i didn't like about VODT, was that Aslan was realy only in it in the very end. as far as i'm conserned, that was the *worst* thing they could have done

Queen Nellie
Queen Nellie
14 years ago
Reply to  V

AGREED, one of the (many)things i didn't like about VODT, was that Aslan was realy only in it at the very end. as far as i'm conserned, that was the *worst* thing they could have done

Q.Susan_of_the_Horn
Q.Susan_of_the_Horn
14 years ago
Reply to  V

what about lucy in with the magician's book?

David
David
14 years ago
Reply to  V

Thank you for your insights. I am taken back with explainations of Narnia not being Christ centered in its purposes and goal. It's like gone to a hockey game and being told that it has nothing to do with hockey, unless that is what you wanted it to be. As far as the rest of the series….and said earlier that MN done in the right way would not need to answer the question if it were a reboot or not!

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago

It's not a big deal, but my username is actually pronounced
"ANN-hƏn."

Movie Aristotle
Movie Aristotle
14 years ago

For better or for worse, Liam and Tilda are really the only selling points that Walden has for Magician's Nephew. I doubt that audiences would be lining up to see Magician's Nephew without Liam and Tilda. I think a reboot starting with Magician's Nephew is not a likely possibility.

DaughterofAslan'scountry
DaughterofAslan'scountry
14 years ago

Why does everyone think that Tilda and Liam are such strong selling points? I don't know anyone who goes to see Narnia because those two are in it.

farsight-mssngr
farsight-mssngr
14 years ago

Narnia 4 will be better (can be better than LWW) if, Andrew Adamson will return to direct it (or another great director will direct it), Douglas Gresham will be the executive producer with producers: Philip Steuer and Mark Johnson, Harry Gregson Williams will return to score the movie, Weta workshop will make the weaponry, arts and craft the creatures.
They should make Narnia 4 reliable to the book just like what they did in LWW in 2005. They must have a big audience impact 5-10 months or a year just before the release of the movie. And they must make Narnia 4 between 2012 and 2013 and/or make 2 films at the same year.
Make Narnia 4 as soon as possible.

Q.Susan_of_the_Horn
Q.Susan_of_the_Horn
14 years ago

Hear, Hear!

Q.Susan_of_the_Horn
Q.Susan_of_the_Horn
14 years ago

a reboot at this point? Personally, I don't think they should at all…but if they DO reboot, they should wait at least 10 years…it would be, like, well, a re-make.

My vote… 1. silver chair 2. magician's nephew 3. horse and his boy (only because the pevensies are my favorite characters)

Cherry
Cherry
14 years ago

They need to go ahead with the Silver Chair. It's already set up from VDT when Aslan tells Eustace that he will come back someday and also Jil Pole is already mentioned. Even though VDT didn't do well they could do better on the Silver Chair. It's interesting and it has good characters and it has characters like Caspian and trumpkin who people remember from previous movies. I don't know why the White Witch needs to be a more prominant character for the Narnia movies to be good. That's obviously what the people thought for VDT and she being in it just made it worse.
And Will Poulter is an excellent Eustace and he is geting older so they need to hurry up.

Thee Narnian Meerkat
Thee Narnian Meerkat
14 years ago

Okay, I finally got to watch this video, and I pretty much agree with every work Glumpuddle had to say. Though, ya, reboots, I hope they NEVER do a reboot! And putting LWW in modern time is just a big NO, NO for me. In the book the Pevensies lived in the 1940s! That would just be even worse even if they did make a reboot.

I agree with you Glumpuddle about re-reading the books to pass the time. 🙂 Listening to the audiobooks is also nice. ^^

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease Walden Media and Narnia movie makers!!!! MAKE ANOTHER NARNIA FILM (preferably the Silver Chair ^^) BUT ANYTHING BUT REBOOTS!!!!! Thank you. ^_^

Hopeful
Hopeful
14 years ago

I don't think that any movie should be rebooted. They should continue with plans to make either Magician's Nephew or The Silver Chair next.

Queen C The Gentle
Queen C The Gentle
14 years ago

I do NOT want the whole cast replaced! just do MN next or do both MN+SC the same year

King of Narnians
King of Narnians
14 years ago

What?! No no! I just hope they do The magician's nephew already, i think it would be interesting to see how exactly narnia was first created!

DaughterofAslan'scountry
DaughterofAslan'scountry
14 years ago

I'm now worried that this is going to turn into something like the hobbit movie, which would not be good.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

How, exactly would that be a bad thing? the Hobbit is gonna be one epic movie.

DaughterofAslan'scountry
DaughterofAslan'scountry
14 years ago
Reply to  Dylan

It took forever for the hobbit movie to be finally greenlit, then it took at least another year for them actually to go into pre-production.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Dylan

i dont see it as a bad thing for that movie, because the trilogy is already finished, and they arent being rushed at all. Now for Narnia, thats a different story. Right now, we arent even in pre production, we are in pre pre production. I hope they stop wasting there time, and get started!

Matt Wills
Matt Wills
14 years ago

I know it's not exactly canonical, but casting Tilda Swinton as TLOTGK in SC would be entirely forgivable, detract nothing from the book, and offer a pseudo-legitimate excuse for Fox (?) and Walden (?) to get her back into top billing. Heck, she wouldn't even need to be referred to as TWW (just 'one of her crew': striking family resemblance, perhaps). It could make tens of millions of dollars and more films of difference….

McGunn
McGunn
14 years ago
Reply to  Matt Wills

I hope they don't cast Tilda as TLOTGK, not because she hasn't done a good job, but just since I'm afraid it will take focus away from the story that Lewis wanted to tell.

That's what I felt happened in VDT – they wanted the film so much to be like the other two (especially LWW), so the Voyage of the Dawn Treader and Caspian's mission was completely lost in the blur of everything else.

If they do deside to make another film (which I hope), they should just work on making a good adaption of the book, without thinking too much about previous successes or mistakes.

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago
Reply to  McGunn

Gresham has already said that they will most likely not do that.

Lys Aranel
Lys Aranel
14 years ago
Reply to  McGunn

This reply is actually to NotOfThisWorld-

Doug Gresham has pseudo-promised a lot of things. I've lost my faith in his judgement.

Braden Woodburn
Braden Woodburn
14 years ago
Reply to  McGunn

Yeah, I know that if I knew how many people knew that The Lady of the Green Kirtle and The White Witch are TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT people, I would make a new actress play her. It would be very weird to see Tilda Swinton who plays the White Witch (who has been dead since the end of LWW) come back and play a different witch.. it would be like twin sisters or something!

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago
Reply to  McGunn

Gresham hasn't said that they will absolutly, no questions about it, have Tilda play tLotGK. As I said in my comment above, "Gresham has already said that they will MOST LIKELY not do that." I didn't say that was absolutly the case. I said probobly.

Capian_Xth
Capian_Xth
14 years ago

I have to go with Silver Chair. LWW, PC, VDT and SC make a complete story in of themselves and that story is not yet complete. It needs to be. Even though the storyline is already screwed up by the way VDT was done. Although, I will admit that up until I saw glumpuddle's review on youtube, I would've said to just drop the whole thing.

Sir Anton
Sir Anton
14 years ago

You covered many good thoughts on what may happen.
It is been rare to see a series last past 3 or 4 movies.When it has done that, there has always been some kind of transition:
1. a few years intermission
2. a change in rights, ownership
3. a change in series direction
4. a different cast, crew, or production
etc.
I think one big thing to consider is this:
Since each film made less at the box office, there will be much pressure to decrease production costs by a great margin. In other words, greatly slashing the ability to add cgi effects and typical blockbuster styling. This may be one of the hanging points in negotiations. Walden Media may be struggling to convince current studio rights group to further invest large sums in the next movie (and beyond). It could lead to Walden Media wanting a new company to take over rights to film franchise so they can continue to see series continue with large production values seen in previous three films. If this happens, it could be years before it continues. Let's hope that scenario does not play out.
As for me, I love The Magician's Nephew book. But I think I would rather see it done with a group that is completely devoted toward being faithful to the story and imagery. Let them make The Silver Chair next. It is my least favorite and they can alter it all they want.

LucyLove
LucyLove
14 years ago

Reboot is a TERRIBLE idea!!!! If had to choose I would do SC, then MN (My favorite), HBB, and LAST the LB.
I really like MN but I don't want it to be responsible for ruining the whole series because of Will's age. And if they were to reboot it can't have language included in the rating.
I really think they'll be doing MN. I hope they do it by the book this time with appropriate changes. I would change a little in all the books but NOT what happened in VDT. I hated the changes in VDT!!!! But I love a few changes in VDT like the part with Lucy and Aslan in the scene when she looks like Susan for a short time.

Not Of This World
Not Of This World
14 years ago

I don't know when they will get around to make the Silver Chair. But I think I have a good guess what the Narnia people are going to have the orgin of the Green Mist be. I bet they are going to have the Lady of the Green Kirtle be in control of it. Anyone else have any theories???

Lys Aranel
Lys Aranel
14 years ago

Personally, I'd like to see them drop the whole series. It's getting worse and worse as they go, and I don't want their grubby paws anywhere near it anymore. Just when I thought nothing could be as bad as Prince Caspian, Dawn Treader was a straight up travesty. I sincerely hope they decide to leave it and never return. To quote "Anna and the King"- 'You have helped enough for one day'.

freshynfs
freshynfs
14 years ago
Reply to  Lys Aranel

I most wholeheartedly agree with your statement. Each movie has continually gone downhill, and might I add with the same scriptwriters writing each movie????? BY the way love your comment at the end of your quote. haha

AslanGeorge
AslanGeorge
14 years ago

A reboot? Not against it totally, just generally. A reboot would require more time to have passed since the current crop of movies. that would allow people time to "forget" these ones and welcome a new series.
What they should have done is film both VDT and SC at the same time. Like Peter Jackson did with LOTR, often filming portions from all 3 books at the same time.
Since they didn't do that they should film both MN & SC at the same time and release them one year apart in whichever order would work best from a marketing/promotional point of view. Best part of that is that if you have 2 movies "in the can" you can promote both simultaneously as well. So it doesn't matter which one gets released to theatres first … the second one would just have more promotional time to build its audience.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  AslanGeorge

The problem with that comparison is that LotR is one of the top 5 best-selling books of modern times. That is not the case for VDT, SC, or MN. Now filming all 3 LotR movies at once was still a risk, but not nearly as much of a risk as filming 2 Narnia movies. Releasing movies close together is important if one movie has a lot of momentum, and you want to keep it going. VDT did not have enough momentum that releasing the next movie as soon as possible is critically important. And there's no telling how audiences will respond to Narnia 4, especially if they insist on using the "remember LWW?" approach to marketing.

Now, LWW generated a lot of excitement, and I think it would have helped PC if they had released it for Christmas 2007, if at all humanly possible. It probably would have had a bigger opening, though it still may have suffered from weak legs.

TeamNarnia
TeamNarnia
14 years ago

i think if they change it no one will probably watch it bc we grow up with these actors

i shall call him squishy
i shall call him squishy
14 years ago

I wasn't a fan of Prince Caspian or Dawn Treader but do not think a reboot would work( at least not for many years). btw Does anyone else think that the new spiderman reboot looks lame?

Braden Woodburn
Braden Woodburn
14 years ago

I think they should do a SEQUEL… go in order, The Silver Chair.. I would love to have a "continuance" as well as not letting Will Poulter get too much of an older person for his character. Now, I can see why start with a prequel.. to show how Narnia was created and how the White Witch came in and I love Tilda Swinton, but I am not sure if it would be a good idea to have a prequel, at least not right now. DO NOT REBOOT.. that is basically just asking for people to save their money. You cannot have something that has went this long be rebooted just like that. Once again, do not reboot The Magicians Nephew either because I love who plays Aslan and the White Witch. Now The Horse and His Boy was my very least favorite. Grant it, it would be nice to see all 4 Pevensies again but it isn't worth it in my eyes. I've read all seven books at least 5 times, so I am good there.

5. Prequel (to VDT): The Horse and His Boy
The Pevensies would likley be given bigger roles

6. Re-read the books! I have read each book a dozen times, and I’m still discovering new things.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago

k, I'm going to keep saying this until someone gives me a proper answer. How much older is too much older? For Will P, I mean.

DaughterofAslan'scountry
DaughterofAslan'scountry
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

In VDT, Eustacwe could have easily passed for a 12 year old. He'll be to old when he can't pass for an early teenager. Right now he could maybe pass for a 12 year old. So nobody really knows when Will P. will be too old, because noone knows what he'll look like in one or 2 years.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

I agree that he looked about 12 in VDT, and that he's too old if he can't pass for early teens in SC.

The problem is that he's already aged a lot since filming VDT, to the point that he can no longer pass for anything less than 15, imo.

DaughterofAslan'scountry
DaughterofAslan'scountry
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

One of the things that makes him look older is
1. He's dressed in modern clothing
2. His current haircut
I agree that he's aged quite a bit, but if he wears historical clothing and has the same hairstyle as in VDT, he could pass for 13 or 14.

Braden Woodburn
Braden Woodburn
14 years ago

Ha whoops, forgot to take off numbers 5 and 6 in my post.. ignore that =P

Louloudi the Centaur
Louloudi the Centaur
14 years ago

Below I am posting a December 2009 interview that I found very interesting, and many people have probably forgotten about by now if they saw it.

http://forum.narniaweb.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=727

Scroll down, and you'll see the part that I'm talking about. The thing I find interesting is that even one year before VDT Walden, Fox, and the Estate had not yet figured out what film to do next. The Silver Chair is referenced with the "fine young actor" Douglas Gresham wants to come back, but it doesn't mention which other books.

I think they should have figured out which film to do after opening weekend of VDT in my opinion. If they had done that, I think this black out could have not come to happen. I'm not actually sure to be honest, but this news drought has been giving me a weird dream about a LWW reboot, and a CGI MN, and a SC film where the kids forgot to rescue Rilian somehow.

Well, even if there are no more films to come, I will still live like a NarniaWebber, and be 100% proud of it.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

Same here. 100 percent. I think they should have had this all figured out a long time ago. Lord of the rings was easy, do fellowship then two towers, then return of the king. And then after that its logical to go with The hobbit. Same thing with Harry Potter. They had the series all planned out before they even started. They need to pick this thing up and carry on with the next four films. They need to forget about whats already happened, and continue on. right now theyve got an age problem with Poulter. If this blackout continues, he will be at least 20 something by the time SC starts filming. He will probably be aroung 30 ish when the series is over. Now think about it, what if they filmed HHB and MN before LB, how old would Poulter be, around 30. We cant have a 30 year old playing the part of a 12 year old. So the logical thing is to film SC and LB back to back, then film HHB and finish it up with MN. Just one condition, i know for the directors and writers it is very tempting to put the green mist in MN. Please, just for the sake of us Narnia fans, dont add the green mist.

High Queene Shelly Belly
High Queene Shelly Belly
14 years ago
Reply to  Dylan

disney HAD it all figured out, they were going to put out one a year. the series would have been finished by now and the kids would have stayed younger. too bad that they tinkered with the
pC script so much, that's what killed the momentum and started the backlash. everything was going perfect and they had the monster disney machine behind them. oh, i could weep.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Dylan

Man, this is so screwed up, i mean, you cant release a seven part series 2-3 years apart! It doesnt work like that! Man, im sick of all this. Cant stand the uncertainty of 20 cent fox, and walden, and all the other screwed up things about the way this series is going. VDT……maybe it wasnt just a box office failure, maybe it was a failure period. PC was alright, but i dont think, unless they finiish off the series and make it amazing, non narnia fans are gonna have a bad after taste from VDT. But maybe im wrong, because all the non narnia fans have no idea that the seven lords and there magicly glowing swords werent even part of the story, so they may not know how bad of a movie it was.

?
?
14 years ago

Reboot the series!
They have done horrible jobs with the last two films. If you need to make them super long like Lord of the Rings.
Just please, please don't continue to make these movies failures!

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  ?

PC wasnt horrible, maybe peter was a brat, but it passed. I think the movies are fine the way they are, just aslong as they dont ruin the next movie.

Murtaghluv
Murtaghluv
14 years ago
Reply to  ?

I happened to love VDT and enjoy PC. We have to look at these movies separate from the books. I don't like the books that much so maybe it isn't that big of a deal to me. but for me the only bad thing in PC was the romance between Susan and Caspian. and then in VDT the only thing that bugged me was the acting of Lucy/Georgie and some little things from Edmund/Skandar

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Murtaghluv

Im going to list my problems with the films overall.
VDT Problems are-
1. Lucy acting like she isnt pretty
Maybe its just me or something, but why does she have to be obbsessed with being pretty. I mean, she already knows what shes gonna look like in the future, because she already has grown up in a sense. Anyways, just a minor problem i saw with VDT. 2. Edmund going crazy over golden sea shells?! COME ON! Really! Maybe it had to do with the green mist and all, but it was terrible. 3. Green mist. Yes, green mist. Single biggest mistake in all these movies combined. Besides, it was to cheesy. Like the seen when Caspian and Ed first see the green mist from there jail cell(CHEESY….). These right here are my biggest problems with
VDT. PC didnt have as many problems except for 1. Caspian is too old, 2. Peter the "Magnificent" mind you, and Caspian getting in little sissy fights, and number 3, Suspian. Yah, that was stupid. They should have just stayed closer to the books, and i bet you anything these movies would be more successfull. I do like some of the things they added, like the overly extensive and awesome battle scenes in PC, and them skipping all the sad and gloomy seens with the Narnians after the first battle. That just makes Narnians look like saps. I think they added enough emotion in PC to get the point across.

Voice of Reason
Voice of Reason
14 years ago

Reboot the series? Like who ever suggested it. I don't recall any rumblings of a studio being interested in Narnia. Walden is the only company right now I can think of who has shown any update interest in Narnia, so if they don't make it, don't count on any more visits to Narnia anytime soon.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

Voice of reason, you are the voice of reason!

Trinity-Hawkeye aka T.H.SwordWriter
Trinity-Hawkeye aka T.H.SwordWriter
14 years ago

i don't what to say, it is shocking to be honest!

David
David
14 years ago

My understanding is that Walt Disney learned lessons in dealing with a beloved classic in literature after releasing Alice in Wonderland. PEOPLE DON'T LIKE A CLASSIC TWEAKED UNLESS YOU DO IT EXTREMELY WELL, AND EVEN IF ITS DONE EXTREMELY WELL ITS STILL NOT A SURE THING.

In my opinion here are the tweaks that kepted the classic series in literature from becoming a classic series on the big screen.

1) Not staying true to the seven basic story plots. There are seven story plots – the first kind is OVERCOME THE MONSTER – our hero learns of a great evil threatening the land, and sets out to destroy it – LWW the movie, like the book, stayed true to the overcoming the monster story line and we were well on our way to blockbuster series. It is with the second basic story plot that the wheels fall off – Rags to Riches: Surrounded by dark forces who suppress and ridicule him, the hero slowly blossoms into a mature figure who ultimately gets riches, a kingdom, and the perfect mate. This is a essence of Lewis' Prince Caspian story. IT WAS NOT EMBRACED IN THE SCREEN PLAY AND THE DAMAGE TO THE SERIES WAS DONE. George Lucas understood that Luke was the Rages to Riches story plot. In this context it is my opinion that comparing Luke with Caspian helps to understand the downfall of what this series could have been – Luke respected Obi-Wan. Caspian, did not respect Peter from the start and he comes across as a snotty know it all instead of someone we want to see succede. Luke's love life was not a primary concern – in fact we are left to assume that once he was completed his mission that a Mrs. Skywalker would come into his life – but Star Wars didn't even need to give us hint of a promise – the kiss between Susan and Caspian derailed the basic story plot. Once you kiss the girl, you have gone from rags to riches! Caspian was cast old in the movie but Luke shows that it can be overcome – leave out a serious love interest till he is done going from rages to riches. According to my theory this derailed PC and sealed the fate of VDT. The third story plot is The Quest: The hero sets, often with companions, to find that which was lost. True enough VDT does do this, but the damage had been done.

My opinion, the reboot with a chronilogial telling, MN goingfirst, staying true to the plots that the genious of Lewis built in, deviating from only when the motion picture can not go what the written story says and therefore must be adjusted.

BYW….
Modern setting of Narnia….my understanding is that Warner Brothers did have the rights before Walden and was pursuing a screen play for Narnia much like Glumpuddle talked about.

Louloudi the Centaur
Louloudi the Centaur
14 years ago
Reply to  David

No, it was Paramount that was going to make a modernized Narnia.

David
David
14 years ago

That's right, it's been so long I got my studio's mixed up! Thanks for reminding me! David

High Queene Shelly Belly
High Queene Shelly Belly
14 years ago
Reply to  David

hey!! come back! what are the last 4 types of plots! that was getting good!!

David
David
14 years ago

Check out http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheSevenBasicPlots

I think that Lewis might have written these books with the seven basic plots in mind – it's kind of fun to theorize how they might fit. The link above brings out the observation that complex stories use a combination of the seven plots (Lord of the Rings for example). So consider this…. as children's storys it would make sense that Lewis would go with a single plot for each of the Narnia books. Theorize then: The complexity of plots is found in the series, the "graspability" for the child is found in the singular plot of each book. If this theory is true it is my opinion that a reboot is the only solution – and what a magical reboot MN would offer! MN 3 years out, LWW reboot 3 years after that? 2017? 2005 was the original, that's 12 years?

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  David

What lesson did Disney learn from Alice in Wonderland? It was very different from the book (granted it was a what-ever-happened-to story, not a remake), and it made a killing at the box office.

David
David
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

Sorry, I should have specified the 1951 animated version. From what I've read Disney took so much heat from fans of the book/author for the way he handled the material that he vowed to never touch a beloved classic again – I will admit that the context might have been "british classic" or "in an animated medium", I need re-check my source for this information. The 1951 Alice followed the 1950 Disney Cinderella (Cinderella was in fact a finacial success from the get go).

Narnian
Narnian
14 years ago

i kept thinking. since they now have trouble deciding which Narnia movie to do next. why didnt they think about that in the first place, like, when they were starting to do LWW ?
and now they wanna cancel the sequel just because of *that* ?

High Queene Shelly Belly
High Queene Shelly Belly
14 years ago
Reply to  Narnian

WWDD+ What Would Disney Do? disney had the game plan all set, i bet,

Emilyn Writer
Emilyn Writer
14 years ago

I would rather them make the Magician's Nephew next so that it will make lots of lots of money so they CAN make Silver Chair and then the last of the books into movies. And a reboot would be too soon. And a cartoon(computer animation) just wouldn't be the same. And if they started making them PG13, it would become more like Harry Potter(and that's kind of… bad in my opinion). I wouldn't mind too much if they rebooted the series, as long as 'Lucy' is thin, because that's how I always pictured her. It would be cool if they just came out and said, "Okay, we're going to make another one! We're going to make the Horse and his Boy next." But that probably won't happen, but we can still hope. and pray.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Emilyn Writer

Gee, Lucy in LWW wasnt chubby, she was pretty thin. Now think about it, what would happen if they did things your way (HHB then MN). By the time that they do SC Poulter would be like 28, seriously! In the books hes supposed to be 11! Id like them to be made your way to, but with Poulters age being the main issue, I think the best solution is to film MN and SC at the same time

Emilyn Writer
Emilyn Writer
14 years ago
Reply to  Dylan

I don't think Lucy's chubby in the newer LWW. I love Georgie.
In the old BBC version though, Lucy looked totally different, and I didn't really like her in that version. I really wouldn't mind if SC was made next instead of the Magician's Nephew. I would like Disney to change their minds or something and get back into making Narnia movies with Walden Media so that they will have enough money to make two movies at a time. That would be nice, even though I don't really trust Disney. They just like to make money out of movies. Hm… if they did make HHB, I would have wanted them to make SC after that and then MN and then LB so that the actor doesn't get too old. If he did get too old, they would probably get a new actor to play the part as Eustace, which is a big mixed bag. If he does get to be too old, then he'll be too old, unless they think it's okay if an adult goes to Narnia.
I really don't mind too much though. I just hope they make a movie soon. But I guess I don't mind too much whether or not they mirror the books(because I've read them and it's not like people are going to go out and burn them all one day).

Murtaghluv
Murtaghluv
14 years ago
Reply to  Dylan

I don't think Will's age is a big deal actually. He is around eighteen years old and my brother is that age and hasn't changed much in look, height, and voice for quite a long time. Now maybe Will is an even later grower(my brother was really late) but I don't think he will be changing that much.

DamselJillPole
DamselJillPole
14 years ago

my final decision is they either make Magician's Nephew next because I agree on what glumpuddle is getting at. Other option, reboot in about ten years from now.

eclipse14
eclipse14
14 years ago

I most definately DO NOT agree with a reboot. I don't think I would be able to watch it. I watched LWW before reading the books and seeing the BBC flims and I seriously don't think I will ever bring myself to watch them. I simply cannot stand seeing characters portrayed by different actors and I think most of us feel the same way. A reboot would probably kill the Narnia movies at this point in time. In the extremely distant future it has possibilites, but certainly NOT NOW!
I really think SC should be filmed ASAP. Setting up everything for it in VDT and then flipping over to MN would just be strange to casual movie fans. Plus Will Poulter's age, as I said before having another actor portray a character is an extreme pet peeve of mine, and that could happen if Will got too old for his part.
But at this moment, I just would like to see any movie come from the franchise! I have no patience and this long, awkward silence is starting to worry me. I hope we will get another film soon.

High Queene Shelly Belly
High Queene Shelly Belly
14 years ago
Reply to  eclipse14

casual movie fans don't know what order the books are in so it doesn't matter to them.

Not anyone important
Not anyone important
14 years ago

But, see, those of us that do know the real order will care…

Murtaghluv
Murtaghluv
14 years ago

Reboot??? how could that even be a possiblity. They did super amazing with LWW, okay with PC, and really good is VDT, no reboot.
But I like the idea of prequel but the logic of doing that with a whole new cast(except Liam and Tilda of course) seems a little risky with Will poulter's age. though he is at the stage in his life where his looks won't be changing that much. nor his voice. he may grow taller but that isn't really a problem.
I am indescisive

David
David
14 years ago

Consider this….what if the next movie did not declare if it was a reboot or not? The audience would be left to draw there own conclusion. Crazy idea, which could only come close to working if the next film was the Magician's Nephew. Here's what I'm thinking….
1) Digory and Polly – clean slate right!
2) White witch much younger – who's to know what she looked like years later (like with Digory).
3) Narnia is fresh and new and the creation scene is going to need to be something amazingly unique – it's music that Aslan uses, a music like no other, to create Narnia.
4) In MN Narnia is an unfallen world – there is no point of reference – in other words, the effects of the 100 year winter could have brought about changes that would make Narnia look totally different….or maybe not!
5) Alsan told Lucy that He appeared different to her not because He changed but because she changed – once again would we have a reboot or not?

Reason for not answering the question "is it a reboot or not?" I do not see how people can say that Narnia's film future does not need a fresh start. Leaving a mystery in the process can allow for its rebirth and at the same time allow for….

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  David

The advantages of a MN movie are, clear. The indroduction of jadis, the explantation of the lampost, the creation of it all… this would be really good marketing wise for the series. Think about it, if your a non narnia fan and you sitting on your couch and your watching tv, and a commercial comes on for SC " The magical journey continues for Eustace as he and Jill blah blah blah….". Now imagine if your sitting on your couch and a commercial for MN comes on " The creation of Narnia as never seen before in eyepopping 3d blah blah….". The second commercial makes you think (if your a non narnia fan), well, how did narnia get created? I dont normally watch Narnia, but this may be interesting.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  Dylan

Why would someone who isn't interested in Narnia have any interest in how Narnia began? Would you have an interest in how Talamhland began?

Sounds like you would market MN using the prequel and special effects angles. Given that Narnia is not a successful franchise, the prequel angle is a weak marketing hook at best. Also, while special effects can magnify the appeal of interesting protagonists or an interesting story, they can't make up for a lack of strong protagonists and story, which is an issue for MN. Take a look at the expensive box office failures of the past year and you'll see what I mean.

I agree that they shouldn't market SC as the continuing story of Eustace. Given how poorly attended VDT was, most Americans would be scratching their heads saying "Who's Eustace?" But if they market it as the story of two boarding school misfits on a sleeping-beauty style quest, that might attract interest. We talked about this on the forum:

http://forum.narniaweb.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2953&start=224

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Dylan

What Im saying is that it might be just a little bit more interesting for someone who hasnt seen the movies. But your right, the plot isnt the greates, and SC definatley had the better plot. I would really hate it if they ruined SC or MN, because the movie would suck. The past two movies have been an example of that. there are plenty of people (me included) who actually like the PC movie. But overall, alot of people i know arent that crazy about it. Same thing with VDT, a bunch of my friends and i were all excited "Ooo, VDT is coming into theaters tommorrow!" and the like afterwards we were kinda like "Huh? What was that?". So, they better not do a poor adaption, they better make the movie exactly like the book.

David
David
14 years ago
Reply to  Dylan

Bottom line, even for the most avid "I can not believe that people are talking about a reboot!" mindset….Is anyone saying that this series has met the hopes and dreams they had for it? Harry Potter – eight movies, theme park impact, etc. I am not satisfied with the results. Is there any true fan out there who is?

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Dylan

Your absolutley right. The only movie that lived up to expectations at all was LWW, definatley. I dont think right now, for the time being, that a reboot is neccessary. Not only will no studios want to pick up on it, it would confuse the hec out of people. Re boot it 10-15 yrs from now. I cant say that i am happy with the results SO FAR. Just look at it this way, they have a chance to redeem themselves, theyve only done 3 out of the seven chronicles. They havent even gotten to the really popular books yet. LWW was one of my fav books, but PC and VDT werent even close to being my fav books. As long as the series is still going, im fine.

decarus
decarus
14 years ago

I am never going to agree with the opinion that MN is the more popular book. It is only the first chronologically and now because the company that publishes the books reordered them it is now considered the first. That is the only reason it has sold more books then the others. It is not more popular.

Ben
Ben
14 years ago

i believe now that HP is finished that Narnia can get a new audience and a continued support from current fans. But they better get in quick before any next crazy series of the HP clan comes out

Puddleglum
Puddleglum
14 years ago

Reboot? I don't even wear them.

As for which one to make next ,I am always going to be biased for The Silver Chair. But I have always spoken for doing two movies at once, like TLOtR series.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Puddleglum

So, you dont wear reboot? Well i dont either, its to early for a reboot. Give it some time, they may pick up speed here as the series goes on.

Anthony
Anthony
14 years ago

voi dovetere fare tutti i film di Narnia …… punto e basta se no vi spezzo le gambe….. sarebbe una perdita inutile …. i film devono continuare tutti fino alla fine ….. cattivi

Anthony
Anthony
14 years ago
Reply to  Anthony

chi la pensa come me? Narnia deve continuare …… tutti i film devono essere fatti …. poi che volete fare fate….. ma ora i film devono essere finiti ….. li compro io i dvd se è questo il problema 😛

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Anthony

no abla espanol.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Anthony

Wait, is that Italian?

Lady Fee
Lady Fee
14 years ago

While I'm not sure I like the idea of rebooting the series as much as I would enjoy it if they just kept going (of course it would be best in my opinion if they picked up with SC) I can say that I would definitely be excited to see what someone else would do with it. I also think that maybe if they did reboot it they could pick up on some of the things that people have said the didn't like (e.g. the fact that it could have followed C. S. Lewis's story line more closely) and make a point of not having that problem.

Nerdnian
Nerdnian
14 years ago

I think they should continue on with the sequel of Silver Chair, but I would be content with Magician's Nephew also. But if they reboot, I'm sueing! 🙂

Starlily
Starlily
14 years ago

This news drought is really getting to me. :/ I want news! Any news! (Unless the news is that they're doing something crazy like turning Magician's Nephew into an sci-fi/action/thriller with the White Witch rampaging the universe blowing up planets or something—whoops, I don't want to give them any ideas)

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Starlily

Maybe thats how they got the idea for the green mist lol. But ya, they do need some new news.

Tara L. the Illustrator.
Tara L. the Illustrator.
14 years ago

So,I think maybe (maybe) they are telling us this so as to keep us all talking, and, you know. (and keep us psyched about narnia)

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

Well, im losing the feeling that im "psyched" about Narnia. Just tell us that they are making a movie, then I will be happy.

Starlily
Starlily
14 years ago
Reply to  Dylan

Agreed.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Dylan

Yep.

farsight-mssngr
farsight-mssngr
14 years ago

'Ber' month is about to start, what news do you bring?
are they not finished yet with their negotiations?
We want Narnia 4!

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

WE NEED NEWS! This is just a little redicoulouse that they havent evne started yet.

Just Queen, not High Queen
Just Queen, not High Queen
14 years ago

I feel like they've forgotten we're here, still waiting desperately for Narnia 4. Maybe we need to show them how much we want more Narnia. We should all write letters, or we could all gather at their doorstep, showing them that we are still here, and we're wanting more!
Just an idea that probably won't happen. But still, I wonder if they don't think there are any more fans willing to wait. I am, and don't think I'm the only one.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago

You are right, we need to write letters or something to get their attention.

Just Queen, not High Queen
Just Queen, not High Queen
14 years ago
Reply to  Dylan

I wonder to whom we should write to. Walden Media? Fox? Or some of the actual crew members and producers such as Andrew Adamson or Mark Johnson? Or all of them?

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Dylan

Im thinking Walden Media. Or Fox. but not Adamson or whoever is producing it, they just need the ok from fox or walden to begin.

Just Queen, not High Queen
Just Queen, not High Queen
14 years ago
Reply to  Dylan

Can't find any contact info for Fox, but did find an address for Walden Media.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Dylan

The problem with that though is that they are still in negotiations, and some soureces even say they might drop out of the project. So I dont know,but Walden Media sounds more like the right people to send a letter to. you know what, narniaweb as a whole group, should write a letter to them. I dont know if it will have any effect, but it might work. We, as fans, just need are voice heard, thats all we need, for walden to know that narnia fans are out there and want another movie.

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  Dylan

It depends on the content of the letter. If it's like a petition, where you're simply stating that you want another Narnia movie, then that would be pretty pointless. They aren't shelving Narnia because they're sad that nobody loves their franchise. It's because they aren't making enough money to keep the franchise afloat. Box office doesn't lie. Not enough people have an automatic interest in Narnia to justify the massive budgets that are involved. And they don't seem to know what magic ingredient they need to add to spark movie-goers's interest.

Now, if you write with an explanation of Narnia's cinematic and box office potential . . . well, for all I know, that might be pointless too, but who knows? It might help.

Just Queen, not High Queen
Just Queen, not High Queen
14 years ago
Reply to  Dylan

Great idea Dylan! Narniaweb should write one big letter that we could all sign, like the letter sent to the crew of Narnia 3 before they started filming.

Dylan
Dylan
14 years ago
Reply to  Dylan

Talvi already said he/she has already asked, but it might be worth a try. Now, who runs this website? maybe he/she should pick out a few people to write this thing on behalf of narniaweb.

Talvi
Talvi
14 years ago

I got tired of waiting for news and called Walden myself – the answer I got was evasive at best. No one seemed to want to give me a straight answer and they just kept transferring me. The thing that was repeated most often was that they are not doing one 'right now' and that 'there are bigger things on the table.' It sounded like they haven't dropped it, but they're not continuing it, either. The lady I eventually got transferred to did say 'There's no sequel in the works right now'. I dunno what to say. T_T

Louloudi the Centaur
Louloudi the Centaur
14 years ago
Reply to  Talvi

Hmm…. interesting. Though I usually don't trust comments like that, I think this one is more reliable.(Don't ask.) Maybe negotiations have stalled for now. That's my best guess. At least it is better than dropping the project completely. I actually don't think it would be too bad of an idea if they waited a few years to continue with the films. Once other major franchises like Twilight and The Hobbit two part films are done, it will give Narnia more opportunity at the box office. And maybe more people will try to read the books once the movies for those are over. But I don't know. Don't give up hope yet people!

Anhun
Anhun
14 years ago
Reply to  Talvi

"Bigger things on the table" makes it sound like they have decided that Narnia is now a mid-range fantasy series. If that's true, they are probably keeping their options open in case somebody comes up with a brilliant idea for how to make a Narnia movie on a mid-range budget. In the case of MN, I don't think that's remotely possible. SC and HHB could be feasible, but someone has to sit down and think it through very carefully.

Dora
Dora
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun

Kudos to you! I hadn't tohuhgt of that!

cydklqfazaf
cydklqfazaf
14 years ago
Reply to  Anhun
narniafan16
narniafan16
14 years ago

Omgosh I think the best choice would b sC