Ramandu’s Daughter Given a Name – Lilliandil
We were contacted by someone within the production who shared a few tidbits of information with us regarding the character of Ramandu’s Daughter.
First, the lovely actress who was the stand-in for the character of Ramandu’s Daughter is Stefania Duncan; 21 year old model and actress from Queensland Australia. Her profile can be seen on StarNow.com here.
Second, the character has been given a name for this movie: Lilliandil. Tirian can confirm this name from The Voyage of the Dawn Treader footage he saw a few months ago. He also mentioned that Douglas Gresham was the one who created this name. Very pretty!
First comment! But the story is cool too 🙂
cool! the name is nice! 🙂
yes! i agreed with liberty, it is a nice name.
Awesome name, Doug Greshem!
bad pose in my mind, though!
What's that supposed to mean?
Uh, you do realise that's not Douglas Gresham in the photo, don't you? Sorry, I couldn't resist.
the name is awesome! It fits the character nicely and seems almost supernatural! I have it two thumbs up!
I like the name! 🙂
I always wished CS Lewis gave her a name in the book
love the name! ;D reminds me of the elves in LoTR
Didn't she play Dahlia in "Legend of the Seeker" episode "Eternity"?
She is awesome! Can't wait for the movie!! Suspense is killing me! =)
Laura Brent, who actually plays Lilliandil, was in the LotS role, yes. Not to be confused with Stefania Duncan shown above. Stefania is the stand-in for Lilliandil. Clear as mud? LOL 😉
I'll admit, Lilliandil IS a nice name, but to be honest, I was kinda hoping they wouldn't give Ramandu's Daughter a name. It just adds to the myseriousness of her character…
I'm right there with you. I keep going back and forth on it, actually. But mostly… I think it would've been nice *not* to have her named. Obviously that's what Lewis himself wanted.
but how ON EARTH are they supposed to make a movie where one of the characters does't have a name? i don't LOVE the name myself, but you've gotta admit, what were they gonna do without it? and i doubt c.s. lewis saw his books becoming movies when he wrote them, otherwise he might have given ramandu's daughter a name.
AWESOME!!! 🙂 I love the name! I always hated it that Lewis didn't give her a name and so I made one up but I like this one better 🙂
I think it is appropriate that she have a name and that Douglas Gresham was the one to give it. 🙂 Sail on VDT and Lilliandil!
Interesting. Sounds like a good name for an elf in LOTR. Or an elf anywhere. But it does fit in with her star nature. Glad they gave her a name. Wonder how canon this will be from now on.
It sure does sound like an elf name! As soon as I saw her name, I had thoughts of Eragon, Arya, Islanzadi, etc. =P
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought that! XD
like that name,and also,that doug gresham gave her the name.
Can't wait for the movie! And the trailer!!!
I've they were going to give her a name, I'm glad Douglas Gresham picked. I would actually prefer she go without a name, but Lilliandil sounds nice.
Oh my gosh! At first I was like, "What? A name? Ramandu's daughter? Are they nuts?" But then I saw the name and was like, "hey, that could work.." Reason? Lilliandil looks a little bit, to me, like her son's name, "Rilian" (At least the first part).
Rillian and Lilliandil. they DO sound similar!
Very true!
I didn’t notice that at first. You’re right they do sound similar.
Interesting. I might not have liked it so much if Gresham hadn't came up with it, haha.
Not a huge fan of having named her, but I was expecting them to. I do like the name. At least it's not "Star Girl." 😉
Ooooh. "Star Girl." You just had to go there. I was resisting. Glad you beat me to it.
Ramandu's daughter has a great name!
Beautiful!!!
I actually like that name. And I know some people thought it would be better if they left her nameless, but… Well, I think it would be awkward if everyone just called her "Ramandu's Daughter" the whole time. I think that's one of those things that doesn't work as well on-screen as it does in a book. And I'm glad Douglas Gresham came up with it; Lilliandil is a very nice name. It seems just a teensy-bit Tolkeinesque to me, like Elvish or something, but I can live with it. I'm happy about this!
Lilliandil, I can only suppose that this is to half explain where the name Rilian comes from. I mean didn't you always wonder why after ten Caspians there was suddenly a Rilian. It is echoing the name Elendil a bit though, getting into a Numenorian area here.
Ah, Elendil! I knew it was reminding me of something Tolkein-ish, I just couldn't place my finger on it.
I've been expecting news like this, and I'm okay with it. I mean, I don't mind Ramandu's daughter being nameless in the book–she didn't really need one. But in a movie it's only appropriate for her to have a name. I just wish C. S. Lewis had named her first. However, I'm glad Douglas Gresham was the one who came up with it.
And most of all, I like it. 🙂 I mean, it could have been a lot worse (Starlight, Celeste, Ramanda 😉 ). I think it's a pretty name, not too fancy and not too plain. All in all, I approve. 😀
It's okay with me.
Lilliandil…I like it. I always hated how she didn't have a name. Stefanie is beautiful too.
What a lovely name. And she is really beautiful!
thats a pretty name!!!!
It wouldn't be half bad, if the name "Lillian" didn't jump out of it. It's just Lillian + the "dil" suffix from a thousand Middle Earth characters (Eärendil, Elendil, Valandil and countless others including Bombadil) as well as eldil and Maleldil. I don't mind the dil suffix, but a more creative base than an obvious everyday name would have been nice.
Oh hurray, I was hoping that they'd name her… Its perfect, too! 🙂
cool!!!!!!!!!
It's a good name for a fictitious character, but I know if it was my name I wouldn't like it lol
If C.S. Lewis' son made the name up…it's fine with me. In fact, it's very beautiful. Finally RD has a name…for the film that is.
I liked her more without a name, that made her more mysterious. and I think thats, what Jack intended, when he din't pick a name for her.
And I don't think I realy like that Name. It sonds so like Lilli! and thats in my oppinion a realy un starish Name.. but I don't think any name would fit to the "Daughter of Ramadu" I imagen…
But I didn't now C.S.Lewis, and as Douglas Greesham picked the name, I belive I can't complain, and say I'd now better, what Lewis would have thought of it.
Modern/elvish. It's fine with me I guess.
A NAME!? Oh noooo…. *cry*
Oh well, at least it's a nice name.
Hmm, well, I'm surprised they gave her a name.
But I shouldn't be that surprised I guess. They gave the Pevensie's mother a name in LWW.
Not sure how I feel about it. It's as good a name as any for a fantasy film. Seeing this isn't "bad" news, I'm happy with it.
Sounds elvish..
Well, this is interesting. I'm glad Gresham gave her the name, I wouldn't like it so much if The producers got together and thought up a name off the top of their heads.
Lilliandil is a good name. But perhaps the fact that she is not referred to as Ramandu's daughter supports the theory that there is no Ramandu? Have we seen any conclusive evidence of him yet?
Wait, what? Why wouldn't there be Ramandu? Has something suggested so?
And I don't mind she has a name now. Ramandu has a name and he's still mysterious to me.
I think even Ramadu isn't as myserious as his daughter.. for example you know for sure, what creature he is. He's a Star. but with his daughter it's different. you know, that shes Half-star.. but who's her mother? there are so many open questions about her.
no way!! you can't have VDT story without ramandu himself!!! i don't believe for a second that there is not ramandu, but even if there is, i will never watch the movie again.
It sounds a bit like a manipulation of 'alambil'……..kind of. 🙂
Oh my! It sounds perfect – almost Elvish. And how fitting that Mr. Gresham invented it! Lilliandil. So much better than anything I have ever thought of!
Nice name! And I think it's spectacular that Doug himself got to name her.
I just hope critics won't say, "It sounds like a JRR Tolkien name."
If we're saying it, it's a sure bet the critics will too.
im not a critic (lol) but i do think it sounds like a JRR Tolkien name, or at least like an Elvish name.
I doubt critics would do too much research…how would they know it wasn't in the book? 🙂
Well, why is it only Middle Earth that can have names that end in 'dil'? Did Tolkien put a copyright on those sort of names? I certainly don't think Gresham was trying to mimic LoTR, and I think it would be silly for the critics to focus on that one name and claim it's Elvish just because it has a certain lilt to it.
Still, I wonder if C. S. Lewis would have approved of the name.
yay! i'm glad they won't have to keep reffering to her as "ranandu's daughter" like they do in the book.
yes! she finally has a name! It's always bugged me that Jack never gave her a name. 🙁 Lilliandil. It does sound somewhat Elvish as people were saying above. But at least she has a name. I made a name up for her, and I think I like mine a little better,but that's probably because I made it up. but hey! that means I can use the name I made for her somewhere else!
I also like how Douglas Gresham named her.
All in all, I kinda like the name, even though it does sound a little Tolkien-ish.
i love that name!its so pretty..i think it sounds like a star's daughter/queen's name
Hmmm…I'm actually not too sure I like that name…I agree with SDG a few posts ago. Just a normal boring name "Lilian" with "dil" at the end of it. It reminds me of old ladies and pickles lol. Its not too bad though, I'm sure I will like it in the actual movie. I don't want to badmouth anything, I'm still super excited! And I do like the idea of naming her for the movie. It would be dificult not to.
Oh yeah, and no offense to anyone named Lilian!
er…Lillian with 2 L's lol sorry.
I think Lilliandil sounds a lot better than Prunaprismia! 😉
prunaprismia was a telmarine queen and ramandu's daughter (lilliandil)is a daughter of a star.
Prunaprismia is a great name for the character it belongs to though,eh? I loved in the movie when the crier had to belt out that name, announcing the birth of Miraz' son. He actually managed to make it sound less ridiculous.
yeah, you are totally right about prunaprismia, aunt letty.
Wasn't the town crier actually Douglas Gresham? I heard somewhere that he had a cameo there. Or maybe it was the part where someone is calling out which countries are pledging their troops.
no, your right, starlily. Douglas Gresham was the town crier, kind of like he was the radio announcer for the radio in lucy's bedroom in LWW!! i really like that!!
Caspian and Lilliandil… (Hey, I can spell it! ;-)) I like it. I'm glad Douglas Gresham thought of the name; it seems fitting! I agree that it does sound Elvish, but I always pictured Ramandu and his daughter being Elf-like!
Lilliandil, won't you get tongue tied saying that name? I am not saying it's not pretty but it will be confusing to say.
I expected they would name her, and I don't mind the name at all, it's rather pretty. It is only appropriate they would, considering it is a movie and not a book.
And true about it being similar to Rilian, it could easily explain where his name came from.
yeah, that's what i was thiking, it shows where rilian came from, which is a good idea.
Oooh! Awesome! I wasn't sure at first when I saw the headline, but now I think it's a really pretty name and a well fitting one too. 🙂
It reminds me of the Elvish names in the LOTR series.
The only thing I'm curious about is how it's pronounced. Anybody have any ideas?
I had a feeling they would do this, and I'm glad Douglas Gresham was the one to come up with it! Lilliandil…hmm, sort of a mouthful to say, but I think it'll grow on me.
So how is everyone pronouncing it? Lilly-AN-dil or Lil-LEE-an-dil?
Exactly what I was wondering. At first I thought LILLy-an-dil, but that sounds like lilly and dill, so I hope that's not right… 😉
I like Lilly-AN-dil… But I guess we'll have to wait and see, unless someone knows…
I pronounce it Lilly-AN-dil, but I could be wrong, and I'd really like to hear Douglas Gresham say it. And I'd really like to hear Caspian say it in a lilting voice with love in his eyes…la-la-la… 😉 L is such a lovely letter, isn't it?
Quite! XD
And this name has four of them! You're in luck 😛
Yes, someone must pronounce it with a British accent. Americans can try, but I don't really think their accents can quite compare!! The British accent is so rich and musical!
I know a lot of people disliked Caspian's fake accent in PC, but I think this name would come off better in that accent. It's a bit awkward to say out loud.
What about Lilly-AAN-dil with the "a" sounding like the "a" in the British pronounciation of "father". I could see it working.
nice name.. it sounds epic.
Hmmm one of my friends made up a better name than that =D
May we ask what it was?
I never thought about the fact that C.S. Lewis never gave her a name. I guess I just figured her name was Ramandu's daughter.
yeah it is lovely for her to not have a name in the book, it adds to her mysterious, like some other people have already said, and also it kind of makes her unhuman and untouchable. But it obviously wouldn't work in a movie, even though it worked great for the book. You're right, you kind of forget she doesn't have a name and needs one for the movies.
Except the Man in Black on Lost never had a real name either and it worked just fine in the show. So yeah, she could have gone nameless.
but caspian MARRIES her, he can't marry someone nameless!!! besides, she is reffered to in the silver chair, so it just wouldn't work to have her have no name. I don't really like the name chosen, but she had to have one. It is great for the books, but you have to admit, as much as i love the story and who ramandu's daughter is and her not having a name and all, she does need one for the movie.
No, I really don't have to agree. 😉 As for SC, there are several titles she could be referred to by "queen" "mother", and "Star's Daughter", all things she is called in the text. The unnamed character on Lost was the primary antagonist for two whole seasons and even had an entire episode devoted to his backstory and it never felt awkward that he didn't have a name mentioned.
That's fine, you don't have to agree. But please don't compare Lost to Narnia!!!!!!!!! that is RIDICULOUS.
How exactly was I comparing Lost to Narnia? I was providing an example of a character who was successfully left nameless.
Why does it matter if Doug Gresham came up with the name or not. Caspian and Susan kissed in the last film and he allowed it. If that can happen then i don't think much of his opinion on things.
True!!! but EVERYBODY allowed the kiss between caspian and susan in the last film, so you can't solely blame HIM and not everyone else. I am disappointed with everybody for that, not just douglas gresham. After all, he wasn't C.S Lewis himself!!!
that is a very pretty name!!! i am glad douglass gresham picted it! why does she need a stand-in???????
Stand ins are for the shots of character where you don't see their faces and such. Usually those are for long days of shooting shots like that so the real actor doesn't have to do that.
But don't mistake it for a stunt double. That's very different. Ramandu's daugh… I mean, Liliandil, 🙂 most likely won't be part of any action scenes.
I thought they were going to name her, but I was kinda hoping they wouldn't. Oh, well. At least "Lilliandil" sounds nice and starry. 🙂
anyone else notice that it's the "star" ending to Tarva and Alambil (AlambIL) from Prince Caspian? She's a star, too…and the Lillian-Rilian thing can't be a complete fluke.
(And yes, it fits in the Tolkein-style writing… but they influenced each other — it's not that surprising!)
Wow, that's true… I like that the name has some sort of meaning, and that would make sense.
They were also influenced by the same linguistic background material.
I still don't think giving her a name was necessary but it certainly doesn't bother me too much.
aww its kind of close to my name 😀
mines is Liliana, the other one is prettier though lol
Lol we have the name but can we pronounce it!
I guess we won't be calling her Ramandu's daughter anymore.
No, i will still always call her ramandu's daughter!!! i have been ever since i read the books 6 years ago and i always will!!
Agreed here. This name is no different than the hundreds of names people have come up with in fanfics. If the author didn't create it, it isn't canon.
but in the other two narnian movies they have changed and added a lot of stuff and in some cases they were good changes and made the movies better. Not the stories or the books, just the movies. Remember, if they do the movies so close to the book they repeat every word, we would have another BBC production type movie. No offense to BBC, they are amazing at period dramas, but they really didn't succeed at the narnian films in my opinion.
Well, it's not that bad, but it sounds too much like an elfl-ish name, something you would hear in lord of the rings. It is very pretty, but it doesn't really seem to suit the daughter of a star in a narnian story.
Beautiful!