Ramandu’s Daughter Given a Name – Lilliandil
We were contacted by someone within the production who shared a few tidbits of information with us regarding the character of Ramandu’s Daughter.
First, the lovely actress who was the stand-in for the character of Ramandu’s Daughter is Stefania Duncan; 21 year old model and actress from Queensland Australia. Her profile can be seen on StarNow.com here.
Second, the character has been given a name for this movie: Lilliandil. Tirian can confirm this name from The Voyage of the Dawn Treader footage he saw a few months ago. He also mentioned that Douglas Gresham was the one who created this name. Very pretty!
Exactly what I was wondering. At first I thought LILLy-an-dil, but that sounds like lilly and dill, so I hope that's not right… 😉
I like Lilly-AN-dil… But I guess we'll have to wait and see, unless someone knows…
Awesome name, Doug Greshem!
bad pose in my mind, though!
nice name.. it sounds epic.
I pronounce it Lilly-AN-dil, but I could be wrong, and I'd really like to hear Douglas Gresham say it. And I'd really like to hear Caspian say it in a lilting voice with love in his eyes…la-la-la… 😉 L is such a lovely letter, isn't it?
Hmmm one of my friends made up a better name than that =D
I never thought about the fact that C.S. Lewis never gave her a name. I guess I just figured her name was Ramandu's daughter.
Why does it matter if Doug Gresham came up with the name or not. Caspian and Susan kissed in the last film and he allowed it. If that can happen then i don't think much of his opinion on things.
that is a very pretty name!!! i am glad douglass gresham picted it! why does she need a stand-in???????
the name is awesome! It fits the character nicely and seems almost supernatural! I have it two thumbs up!
Quite! XD
I thought they were going to name her, but I was kinda hoping they wouldn't. Oh, well. At least "Lilliandil" sounds nice and starry. 🙂
May we ask what it was?
Stand ins are for the shots of character where you don't see their faces and such. Usually those are for long days of shooting shots like that so the real actor doesn't have to do that.
But don't mistake it for a stunt double. That's very different. Ramandu's daugh… I mean, Liliandil, 🙂 most likely won't be part of any action scenes.
If we're saying it, it's a sure bet the critics will too.
What's that supposed to mean?
anyone else notice that it's the "star" ending to Tarva and Alambil (AlambIL) from Prince Caspian? She's a star, too…and the Lillian-Rilian thing can't be a complete fluke.
(And yes, it fits in the Tolkein-style writing… but they influenced each other — it's not that surprising!)
And this name has four of them! You're in luck 😛
I still don't think giving her a name was necessary but it certainly doesn't bother me too much.
aww its kind of close to my name 😀
mines is Liliana, the other one is prettier though lol
Lol we have the name but can we pronounce it!
I guess we won't be calling her Ramandu's daughter anymore.
Well, it's not that bad, but it sounds too much like an elfl-ish name, something you would hear in lord of the rings. It is very pretty, but it doesn't really seem to suit the daughter of a star in a narnian story.
No, i will still always call her ramandu's daughter!!! i have been ever since i read the books 6 years ago and i always will!!
yeah, that's what i was thiking, it shows where rilian came from, which is a good idea.
prunaprismia was a telmarine queen and ramandu's daughter (lilliandil)is a daughter of a star.
Beautiful!
im not a critic (lol) but i do think it sounds like a JRR Tolkien name, or at least like an Elvish name.
no way!! you can't have VDT story without ramandu himself!!! i don't believe for a second that there is not ramandu, but even if there is, i will never watch the movie again.
yeah it is lovely for her to not have a name in the book, it adds to her mysterious, like some other people have already said, and also it kind of makes her unhuman and untouchable. But it obviously wouldn't work in a movie, even though it worked great for the book. You're right, you kind of forget she doesn't have a name and needs one for the movies.
True!!! but EVERYBODY allowed the kiss between caspian and susan in the last film, so you can't solely blame HIM and not everyone else. I am disappointed with everybody for that, not just douglas gresham. After all, he wasn't C.S Lewis himself!!!
wow. i knew this was probably going to happen but i'm still kinda in shock. it's a pretty name. and i guess it would have been weird for them just to call her "lady" or "ramandu's daughter" for the whole movie, especially if she's going to be in it for longer than the book. but still, as a book purist, this is kinda hard to swallow…
This reminds me of the way the White Witch's dwarf was given a name in the first film (Ginarrbrik, no doubt derived from Nikabrik). It would be cool if they kept her nameless, but somehow I don't think that would work cienmatically.
I doubt critics would do too much research…how would they know it wasn't in the book? 🙂
Yes, someone must pronounce it with a British accent. Americans can try, but I don't really think their accents can quite compare!! The British accent is so rich and musical!
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought that! XD
Uh, you do realise that's not Douglas Gresham in the photo, don't you? Sorry, I couldn't resist.
It would work, you just have to be very careful about the way you do it. Case in point: on LOST, the TV series, there's a main character with no name in the final season. You never do find out his name but it works.
I didn’t notice that at first. You’re right they do sound similar.
Wow, that's true… I like that the name has some sort of meaning, and that would make sense.
It's great that Doug Gresham gave her a name that reflects her son's name (well, his name will reflect hers).
Lilliandil – Rilian!
I am guessing the "dil" ending is either a diminutive ending or a feminine name ending from some language I don't know!
What about Lilly-AAN-dil with the "a" sounding like the "a" in the British pronounciation of "father". I could see it working.
I think even Ramadu isn't as myserious as his daughter.. for example you know for sure, what creature he is. He's a Star. but with his daughter it's different. you know, that shes Half-star.. but who's her mother? there are so many open questions about her.
It's very beautiful name…also like a Star*crying*
Well, why is it only Middle Earth that can have names that end in 'dil'? Did Tolkien put a copyright on those sort of names? I certainly don't think Gresham was trying to mimic LoTR, and I think it would be silly for the critics to focus on that one name and claim it's Elvish just because it has a certain lilt to it.
Still, I wonder if C. S. Lewis would have approved of the name.
It might have to grow on me before I say anything. But it sounds pretty. Oh why can't they release the trailer I'm dying here. 🙁
yay! she has a name! i never liked how she was just called "the star's daughter". besides since she becomes caspian's wife its just rediculous to not give her a name.
Stefania Duncan?
25.08.2009 NarniaWeb reported that the role of Ramandu's will perform Laura Brent:
http://www.narniaweb.com/2009/08/ramandus-daughter-cast
Why another actress?
I always thought she deserved a name besides Ramandu's Daughter. I really like Lilliandil. I'm so glad she has a name. 🙂 Oh coracle that is neat that her name is similar to Rillian, thanks for pointing that out. :)Thank you Mr. Gresham for giving her a name! I'm dying to see the trailer now! Long live Aslan and sail on VDT!
Prunaprismia is a great name for the character it belongs to though,eh? I loved in the movie when the crier had to belt out that name, announcing the birth of Miraz' son. He actually managed to make it sound less ridiculous.
I know a lot of people disliked Caspian's fake accent in PC, but I think this name would come off better in that accent. It's a bit awkward to say out loud.
They were also influenced by the same linguistic background material.
That actress is quite pretty, and of course, she's the stand-in, not the character actress, but…I hope Laura Brent has a more, well, [ethereal] appearance. I really couldn't tell from that artist's rendering on the poster board we saw earlier. Ramandu's daughter needs to be beautiful, but not in the conventional, prom-queen manner. She should be someone who knows how to comport herself as a lady, something that is getting harder and harder to find in the entertainment business these days. It really can't be faked very well.
Based on the few pictures I've seen of Laura, she seems very ethereal. In my opinion she has very classically beautiful face, like an ancient Greek sculpture's, and certain air of nobility about her.
I don't think the names sounds particularly Tolkienish. First of all, the ll in the middle makes it look different. And secondly, it's a little too "cute" for an Elvish name. They're usually more Celtic or Latin. IMHO. 😉
lilliandil is a great name!it never really made sense to me why she didn't have a name. now if only we could see a trailer i thought one was supposed to come out in may. please get a trailer out
Dude, it's not another actress, it's still Laura brent. The other girl is her stunt double!
This is a little off course, but since Ralian's mother was Lilliandil (cool name:-), that means that he is half star, right? Dose that mean he is the rightful king of Narnia? BTW like the name.
im not into the name (sorry douggie)
what do they mean by stand in?
So how "EXACTALLY" do you pronounce it?
I love it! But, my sister and I are SO used to pretending that her name was Esther, it's going to take quite awhile to get used to her new name. 🙂