One Year To Go: NarniaWebbers Discuss Expectations

The Dawn Treader Concept Art

Thus far, the anticipation for The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader has been characterized by uncertainty. For a long time, we were not even sure if the movie would get made. But, one thing is certain: If the third film in the series suffers the same fate as the second, it is very possible we will not see a fourth.

Does Prince Caspian’s disappointing box office indicate that The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe was merely a one-hit wonder? Or was Prince Caspian just a one-time hiccup? What will happen to the franchise without Disney? What approach will Fox take to marketing? Will a December release date give the film a box office boost? Will the film be able to overcome its competition? Will The Silver Chair be green-lit?

In addition to those questions regarding the commercial state of the franchise, there has been plenty of discussion, speculation, and controversy about the script. What is this “unfathomable fate” mentioned in the synopsis? How many creatures will be on board the ship? Did Ben Barnes really mean there will be “pitched battles”? How big of a role will the Mysterious Little Girl (Gael) have? What kind of vision of Narnia will Michael Apted bring, and how will it differ from Andrew Adamson’s?

As of today, we only have one more year of anticipation before these questions are answered. To mark this occasion, we decided to ask a handful of NarniaWebbers how they feel about the state of the franchise, and their general expectations for the third film in the series. First up, we have a special edition podcast in which Rilian (Podcaster), GlumPuddle (News Poster), and first-time guest Fantasia_Kitty (Admin) share how they are feeling with one year to go. Listen below:

We also asked some of the forum moderators to type up their thoughts:

Ben Barnes and Skandar KeynesAJAiken: (Moderator: Cast and Character Discussion)

I adore the 2005 and 2008 adaptations of The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe and Prince Caspian. Though there are moments which make the purist in me cringe, these films are two of my favorites. Besides being truly gorgeous pieces of work – have you seen the costumes, the sets, the cinematography? – they are quality movies. People who really love the books have worked hard to show their vision – yes, anyone who puts so much work into films such as these will show something of themselves that perhaps is not canonical. I’d much rather watch Susaspian than the planned adaption of LWW that set the story in San Francisco and had hamburgers instead of Turkish Delight. So I can’t wait to find out who Gael is and where she ties in to the story, and whether the production has finally stuck to character traits from the books. I’m hoping The Voyage of the Dawn Treader is as exciting and well-made as the first two films, and from what I’ve seen and heard that’s going to be so..

Will Poulter at the Wharf setDiGoRyKiRkE (Moderator: Narnia Fan Art)

My biggest concern for Voyage, and, by extension, the whole Narnia franchise, resides with Eustace.

At this point in the story, the Pevensie story line is coming to an end, and a new exciting chapter is set to begin. As a book, it works quite well, because people fall in love with the land of Narnia itself, rather than with the characters (at least I did). I’m not sure the same thing can be said of these films, in which I think the emphasis has been placed too heavily on the Pevensies, and the actors/actresses portraying them.

In an ideal world (at least for me) the crew of voyage would start to focus more on the land itself, rather than the individual characters. However, if the Narnia films to date are any example, this is nothing more than a pipe dream. It is for that reason that my biggest concern lies with Eustace.

If the filmmakers cannot sell him as a truly endearing character, which will be difficult due to his indifferent attitude at the beginning of the film/book, they may find themselves in hot water. It is my biggest fear that people will go along with their first impression of Eustace, and that movie-goers will not invest two hours of their lives in Silver Chair, if they know that the Pevensies aren’t going to be in it.

So, in closing, the filmmakers of Voyage need to shift away from Lucy and Edmund. Yes, they have interesting story lines, but Eustace is the future of this franchise, and if they alienate him as a character to placate the movie fans, rather than the book fans, I’m afraid that this franchise may sink.

Filming at the Narrowhaven Wharf set - Movie Mazzupial

GlimGlum (Moderator: Cast and Character Discussion)

I believe that one of the strengths VDT possesses is its great contrasts and balance of light and dark story elements. Some examples:

• Eustace’s early “record stinker” character – After being “undragoned” mostly positive changes
• Slave trade and Gumpas – Slaves freed by Caspian & crew and Lord Bern
• Dufflepuds menacing at first – Funny and cute after Lucy’s enchantment removal efforts
• The Dark Island and Lord Rhoop’s tormented character – Ramandu’s Island with bigger and brighter sun, singing birds, and of course Ramandu’s lovely daughter

I think that the overall audience appeal will be higher than PC because of the adventure, action (not too much we hope), real magic with a magician/wizard (Coriakin) and his house and book, fun for kids with the Dufflepuds(after becoming visible again), some scares(Dark Island), discovery(underwater Kingdom), and a wee bit of romance(I wonder who?), and the spiritual aspects of the ending.

With a better story and greater appeal, I think VDT has a really good chance of setting things right again for the Narnia film series. The new film crew and director Michael Apted are experienced and professional filmmakers. I am optimistic.

Starkat (Moderator: Cast and Character Discussion)

Lucy on the Dawn TreaderIn my opinion, Prince Caspian was a good movie, but not a good adaptation of the book. It missed one key thing that made the book so special to me. Peter was arrogant and did not bother to take Caspian seriously. By shifting the focus to “We haven’t come to take your place, but to put you into it,” the movie would have been a much better adaptation.

Marketing was another problem. Too much too fast was offered up and there was no way for the public to absorb the release and share their excitement with their friends. Word of mouth was one of LWW’s greatest strengths.

With some of the early reports from the set, I wonder if we are going to have the same problem with VDT. The BBC turned out a faithful adaptation that was also a good serial. I would hope that the writers have learned their lesson and minimize the changes. The marketing seems much more sound. It remains to be seen what the adaptation will be like. I would like to repeat my LWW experience with the wonder and excitement that I felt when reading the book instead of having to see the movie several times just to get pulled into the story like with PC.

The Dragon's Head ~ TamaraGymFan15 (Moderator: Narnia Fan Art)

I’m still not really sure what to think about VDT. So much depends on this movie doing well, and we already know that movie-going audiences can be very fickle when it comes to likes and dislikes. Some parts about the new movie that I’ve been able to see so far really excite me, like the production design, Will Poulter as Eustace, and a care for detail. Other parts leave me perplexed, a bit confused, and a little worried, like various plot and story changes that we know have taken place, and could change the success of the movie drastically, for better or for worse.

I think that either VDT will be a big success, going far and beyond what PC and perhaps even LWW took in, or it will crash and burn, making less than PC and putting the final nail in the coffin for the Narnia franchise. I don’t think there’s a middle ground.

So for us Narnia fans, we can only sit back and wait, hoping that the filmmakers know what they are doing and that everything will turn out all right. It’s far too early to make any kind of prediction either way.

What will happen? Find out this time next year! (In the meantime, isn’t it time you re-read the series?)

Now, we want to know what YOU think. Post your thoughts below or in the forum.

82 Responses

  1. 7chronicles says:

    I can't say I really know what I'm feeling right now with just a year to go. I’m happy that VDT is alive and well after all the speculating whether it was going to be made or not. With that said I’m still a bit nervous, but still very optimistic! I think I must just think the best of things, have hope and take what ever comes as we wait for this final year to countdown. After all is said and done, it's in God's hands, and it couldn't be in better ones then His! God Bless and on to the final countdown!

    • Lucille Brown says:

      Yep. You are correct in saying that. We can only pray for the best.

      • FanOfJesusChrist says:

        i think jesus will make something good with the movie because this narnia movies are a way to submit god's word to the people!! Lets Pray for this!!! it will be a great success AMEN!!!!!!!!!!

      • mere says:

        Hahaha, agreed. Amen 🙂

    • iLiveInNarnia says:

      It is kinda hard to say.. but i have some excitements 😀
      I just hope they continue to make all the movies dispite how much money this movie makes

      • Wayne says:

        I agree, they have to make all the books into movies regardless of how much the movie makes or loses. These books and stories are what kept many people to live a better path in life and that is worth more then what any movie makes.

  2. Crews says:

    I have adored the Chronicles of Narnia since I was a little boy. On average, I have read the entire set at least twice a year for the past twenty years. I am also an avid fan of Tolkien's universe, along with virtually any other fantasy tale I can get my hands on.

    Something that perplexes me when I watch fantasy films is that more often than not, the filmmakers miss the 'magic' of fantasy. Sure, they dazzle us with elaborate and well-executed special effects. They capture the main plot points and 'embellish' to make the story more audience-friendly. They might even attain a certain degree of subtlety in a genre often plagued with over-emphasized action shots and trite romances. But they miss what makes a fantasy film wondrous.
    In the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, Lewis describes the monsters of the Stone Table scene–by not describing them. He leaves them to the imagination: one of the strongest tools in literature and art. Is this possible in a commercially successful film? I think it is; in fact, I think it makes an artistically credible and commercially successful film. Consider Pan's Labyrinth. Elegant, understated special effects, gorgeous photography, and an authentic sense of reflection. Speaking of Pan's Labyrinth, what happened to Tales that had real danger and real acts of courage/sacrifice?
    It's all there in the books. I know for a fact that I'm not the only loyal Lewis fan that felt significantly underwhelmed by Aslan's sacrifice/resurrection in LWW and the 'waking of the trees' in PC. Will the Voyage of the Dawn Treader film live up to the richness of the book? Here's hoping for the best.

    • tenthofthatname says:

      The difference between Pan's Labyrinth and the Narnia films is that Pan was straight to film, so there was never any written source material to compare it to. In any case Lewis himself criticized the film medium for precisely the same reason you laid out: translation to film takes the imagination out of a story. It's true to an extent by laying out physical foundations that can't be changed, but I fully believe film still manages to capture and stir peoples' imaginations. The Narnia films have done this for people, evident in how many have gone to see them regardless of their familiarity with the books.

      I for one am looking forward to VDT. A year is too long to wait! But I'll be patient because that December release date is most ideal.

    • NarniaFreak says:

      I agree with you. No matter how "special affected" they make it, nothing can compare to the wonderful movie theater called imagination. That truely is and forever will be the best place to watch these stories come to live. But I still can't wait for the movie! Sail on VDT!!

  3. Nicole says:

    I hope all go's really well and that they decide to make all of them the one's i have seen so far are great i watch them all the time if someone asked me to watch it with them i could never say no to it they are so great keep up the great work

  4. Nicole says:

    i love the books

    • King Skandar the Just says:

      Yeah so do I, that's why I'm sad that they changed things…oh well..It'll probably benefit the movie somehow.

  5. iLiveInNarnia says:

    I have high expectations for this movie. Well, for one thing, this movie ISN'T Disney. As you can tell, Disney is kinda going down a different path at this moment, with all the music and shows they do. If they were doing VDT who knows what could happen? I have complete faith in Fox. With all this buzz building up anticipation, there will be more people who will want to see this movie to find out who the MLG is, and what the "unfathomable fate" is. Just that anticipation alone could bring in a lot of box office points. 😉

    I am worried about SOME things though, very few if any. If Fox just decides to add these, elements..say..from other books?, that could make us all unhappy. Of course, some people may not notice because they're not as big of fans of Narnia as we all are 😉 but for us, it will make a difference. Also, like Crews said, film makers love the "fantasy" element of some stories. If they over fantacise it (If that even makes sense) That would not be appreciated either..
    Nevertheless, I have very high expectations for this movie. I am excited to see what they are going to do, and I am very excited to find out who the MLG is and what this "unfathomable fate" is. I will probably end up seeing this movie numerous times in the theater, than buy the 3-disc DVD when it comes out. 😀

  6. Starlily says:

    My hopes for the VDT movie is that even if it makes a few disappointing changes, it will still adapt our favorite scenes well, keep the major themes of the book (adventure, discovery, friendship and courage, Eustace's transformation–and I don't have time to think of any more), and leave us Narnia fans, and also general audiences, with a good feeling after seeing the film. I hope everyone will wish to see more, instead of thinking two hours of their lives were wasted.

    Is that too much to ask? I hope not. But although I'm a little nervous about the movie, I'm still optimistic. Here's to hoping we won't be disappointed. 🙂

  7. mC iVAN says:

    can't wait for this movie. i think it will be amazing!
    just so sad that Disney decided not to become a part of this movie. It's Fox now.

  8. Narnia Girl says:

    Only one year!!!!! YAY!!!!! I'm so excited. 😀

  9. narnian resident says:

    i dont really know if i can say im optimistic or pessimistic of the whole thing. i know i WILL love it because, after all, its narnia, and just for that fact. the other love depends on if i LIKE it. what i mean is if it comes up to my expectations of a good narnia movie, and doesnt fall away like prince caspian. there's so many changes going on and i think thats whats getting people nervous. a new director, a new partner for walden media, new characters, a new plot, basically there's a lot of changes going on, and people tend to panic when there's changes. though there are some changes i dont think im too happy with, i cant judge yet until i've seen the movie. i mean, nobody knows if the character changes with rhince and rynelf are as bad as we make it sound, or any of these "battles and plots". it could maybe make this movie successful. i highly respect those who want it close to the book, i do to, but there are also those who havent read them and are just going to see the movie cuz they liked the other ones, and they may not be satisfied with how the book exactly is. a business, especially the movie business, has to think about ALL their customers and fans, not just those that like them because they like the book. right now im just doing my best to not think badly of anything thats going on. if the movie's good, i'll like it. sure, there were plenty of things i didnt like about prince caspian, but that didnt mean i didnt go buy it. i still loved it, because it was good in QUALITY. i think too many people looks at the story in the movie too much, and judge it by that, but really what matters the most is the quality. even if the plot was completely changed and they switched everything, if the quality's good, i'll like it. i think everyone just needs to sit back and relax and not worry about this. besides, the more you worry about it during the time its made, you wont be able to enjoy it as much :-).

    • Lutra's Pearl says:

      I will agree with you!

    • glumPuddle says:

      I disagree that just because it has Narnia in the title, it's Narnia. I've seen many adaptations where the only thing they get right is the title.

      • King Skandar the Just says:

        Really? That's terrible!

      • narnian resident says:

        well i didnt mean that because its narnia its going to be perfect or great. i've seen adaptations too thats really bad. i suppose i just meant that because we can now trust thats its going to be good since its being made professionally with good quality stuff then it'll be good.

      • tenthofthatname says:

        I've seen adaptations where even the title isn't right: Constantine. Entertaining movie, terrible adaptation.

      • Lutra's Pearl says:

        I agree with you on that one!

  10. Lutra's Pearl says:

    I never thought that Andrew was the right one for the job, these movie were his first live-action movies. I my opinion we needed someone with a little more experience. Some on e that would not do his dream of Narnia but THE dream of Narnia. Because I think the two are very far apart. have seen some of Micheal Apted's movies and really like them, so even if the plot is different from the book I am hoping that everything else will be good. I think that they almost tried to hard in PC. Keep the story of Aslan alive!

  11. Bother Eustace says:

    I woke up today thinking, "December 10? One more year till Voyage!" And then I wondered if Narniaweb would do anything special for the occasion. I have my answer 😉 I, for one, and thrilled about this movie. I'm apprehensive about a few things, but I have a good feeling about this one. Not sure why. Here's to hoping that Voyage is great, and the series continues!

  12. Silver the Wanderer says:

    Dispite all the rumored plot changes and character changes, I'm feeling strangely optimistic about VDT. Maybe that's because I'm simply a optimistic person by nature, but so far I've seen many things that perhaps can conpensate for this feeling. The Dawn Treader herself is a masterpiece – better than anything I could have imagined, and I'm so excited to see her on the big screen. I'm also very excited to see WIll Poulter as Eustace. From the few short glances we've seen of him in the spy videos, I'm really hoping he's going to turn out to be a great actor who can continue the series in the absence of the Pevensies. Sure, there's going to be some changes in VDT, but that's because no adaptation can be "perfect". Changes are necessary in order to make a good movie. One of these changes, creatures onboard the Dawn Treader, is necessary to bridge the gap between PC and VDT. And as far as the new studio and director, hopefully we'll be seeing improved marketing that will let more people know about VDT. Overall, I'm expecting to enjoy VDT. Let me not be proven wrong.

  13. Starsy says:

    I remain cautiously optimistic. At the same time I am a little anxious, as VDT is one of my favoritest of the series, and I dearly hope they will improve Reepicheep. Everything considered, it looks really wonderful so far – and even if worst comes to worst, it could not possibly be as bad as Prince Caspian. 😛

    All the same, I am trying not to raise my expectations too high – that was, I think, the reason I was so disappointed with PC.

  14. Prince Caspian made 400 million dollars at the box office. Why is that bad? Sure it didn't make the same as the first film, but 400 million is a lot more than some movies even wish they could make. Some don't even make a 100 million and we still talk about them. Caspian would have done a lot better during the holidays, but what's done is done. The voyage is a year away. I'm so ready.

    • tenthofthatname says:

      I wonder the same thing because $400mil is nothing to laugh at. Less than expected yes, but so what? If anyone thought Prince Caspian was supposed to raise the bar I don't know what to say because even in book form I feel PC isn't as engaging a story as LWW.

      • glumPuddle says:

        $420m at the box office meant that a huge amount of time and money was spent for very little profit. These movies are very expensive to make.

      • tenthofthatname says:

        Profit doesn't equate quality. However I agree profit affects whether another movie in the series will be made. Too much money spent on marketing for a poor release date, too much money spent on merchandising for a lot of stuff no one needs. …Nevermind that I bought a lot of that useless stuff heh.

    • glumPuddle says:

      You couldn't be more right. Profit certainly does NOT equal quality. This year is the perfect example. Transformers 2 was the highest grossing movie of the year, and New Moon set a record for midnight showings. God help us all.

      • tenthofthatname says:

        Haha two movies I haven't seen with no regrets. I'm taking my chances with Daybreakers and The Wolfman for my vampires and werewolves fix.

  15. tenthofthatname says:

    I. Can't. Wait.

    That sums up my feelings on VDT. I want something now. Just a quick teaser trailer. Something. Anything. I'm highly enthusiastic for the film while holding modest expectations and hope I can pull through till next December!

  16. Nathan Clingan says:

    One of the greatest factors determining VDT's success, imo, will be its fidelity to the spirit of the book. If they take too big of a departure… they will lose the enthusiasm of the hardcore Narnia fans, who are the real advertising.

    I really liked some of the little additions in LWW–the fox, for example, could have come straight from Lewis' pen. If the adaptations in VDT don't go too far, it has a good chance of success; if they are PC style, it dies.
    Of course that's not the only factor, but it's one of the greatest I can see.

  17. Roger says:

    I hope the marketing is better for VDT. On PC the media buys seemed to be on Disney-owned properties like Disney Channel and ABC. I hope they stayed true to the nature of VDT such as the characters used their wits rather than swords to conquer their enemies. Please no epic battles. I hope they really developed Eustace so we can have Silver Chair, but I hope that Lucy, Edmund and Reep get a proper tribute at the end. I consider the ending of VDT one of the most important moral and religious scenes in all the Chronicles. VDT ends the first half of Narnia. The high kings and queens are now gone. Most of all I hope that they captured the vast mental image that the book created. This is a book to really stimulate vivid dreams. Obviously all our dreams are different, but I hope the filmmakers found a good compromise. Like PC next December 10 I will enter the theater with small expectations and hope to be pleasantly surprised. No one can film a movie as good as the one in my mind, but I can hope that the filmmakers come close. This is the problem of such good books as the Chronicles.

  18. Feather~Light~Heart says:

    I am very nervous about this movie, especially after reading the Douglas Gresham interview where he said changes had to be made and things added or there would be no movie. I hope it does well so they will continue with the Chronicles!! My motto though is Keep Smiling! =]

  19. bdog1984 says:


    • wolfloversk says:

      I agree. Prince Caspian was awesome, the only thing I didn't like was the stuff between Caspian and Susan and Caspian and Peter. But, PC and LWW are equal on my favorite movies list(#1) because although LWW had a better, book-like plot, PC had better action and better special effects. The trees were my favorite scene in PC, and in LWW, it was when Lucy first entered Narnia.

    • Lady Galadriel says:

      If you read the BOOK you may understand why many of us feel it was a bad adaptation. I understand the changes they made, and YES it made for a great movie, but it was a poor adaptation.
      I have very much an attachment for these books and find it hard when the personalities and qualities of characters are messed with.
      Instead of rewriting PC, I believe they should have embellished what they had. The night raid would have been great if the Pevensies had not been there.
      But I'm not going to elaborate now since I have already time and time again, so that's all.

      • bdog1984 says:

        ARE YOU KIDDING ME THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU FINDING EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO MOAN AND COMPLAIN ABOUT A GREAT MOVIE ADAPTATION. First of all your logic about what makes the movie bad is just stupid and ridiculous when you actually have to invent things to whine about you know you are wrong

      • Lady Galadriel says:

        Thank you for correcting my negative attitude.

      • wolfloversk says:

        book, but you have to admit PC just doesn't work in movie standards because your main character's are missing from half the book. I think they're adaptation was decent given the circumstances. I'm glad they reorganized the plot, and I even liked the castle raid. The only thing they shouldn't have done was mess with Peter, Susan, and Caspian the wasy they did.

      • wolfloversk says:

        Srry, my response got cut off some how the first part said that I read the book.

      • Lady Galadriel says:

        "you have to admit PC just doesn’t work in movie standards because your main character’s are missing from half the book."

        Understandably. Half of the book takes place with Trumpkin and the kids around the campfire.

        Some people say that the book is hard to adapt because it is a lot of talking. It appears to be talking because Lewis skims over the actual battles.

        I think it depends who is the main character/s. I, for one, believe that PC should have revolved more around the title character than the Pevensies. I would have liked it better if Caspian had perhaps been the one to rashly organize the castle raid and the Pevensies had arrived afterward.

        Anyway, that's all for now. 🙂

    • Sue says:

      yes, i agree that prince caspian wasn't a very good adaption of the book, but it was still an awesome movie! i loved the action and it was probably neven better than the first film for me. anyway, it's not like everyone has the same imagination so we can't expect the movies to be exactly how we imagined the story to be like… nevertheless, i hope that vdt will be a much bigger success so that there will be more narnia movies to come!

      • Lady Galadriel says:

        *nods agreeably*

        Oh, yes, it was definitely a very good movie, very suspenseful, full of action, etc. 🙂 But I don't believe that it carried the "quality" of the book. I think Peter should have been more mature, you know. As a High King of Narnia I think he was too rash.

    • Sue says:

      though i didn't like peter's arrogance and susan and prince caspian's romance. it would have been better if there weren't so many twists and turns but i guess it was for the better because if they didn't do so, the story wouldn't go so smoothly; the scenes would keep changing even more often, say from the pevensie boys and prince caspian to susan and lucy finding aslan in the woods.

  20. FriendOfNarnia2 says:

    One episodic film that did very well financially is Finding Nemo. Maybe Walden and Fox could learn a few things from Pixar.

  21. King Skandar the Just says:

    Like DiGoRyKiRkE said this does rely quite heavily on Eustace, but with the great actor that Will is I'm sure that he will become just as popular as the Pevisies.
    Another thing is if Harry Potter survived with 3 different directors why can't we? I'm sure Michal Apted will do a wonderful job. Besides look at the sets and costumes! They're beautiful!
    I feel that we shouldn't change what C.S. Lewis has done but I guess they thought it was the best choice. Oh well…
    All those questions are quite creepy, but we should just wait and hope for the best!

  22. pselpevensie says:

    awesome podcast. everything was really well said. (btw- i am also one of those people who liked caspian more than wardrobe ;-))

  23. Luis says:

    Im a huge narnia fan since a little boy. I dont understand why peopple r so wrry beacuse of the changes. Im tired of telling the same thing the movie is based on the book not made as the book was written. I know that ppl say that cs lewis messege were gone in the second one. Every messege was sent only diffrently, they added more action so whats the big deal tats good. In te Book of prince caspian there were allot of battle it is written only that cs lewis dint describe them but they r there. I love Narnia, te books and te movies i dont care waht ppl say , they will never take narnia from my heart!!!!!! Narnia is verry special to me in every way, I ave fait that all te narnia movies will be made and tey will be a major success. Only a year for te movie , im so appy and canot wait for that day i will be the first in line to buy te ticket and to get the best sit in te theater

  24. narniafan4ever ♥ says:

    Oh my gosh!

    I am so excited about this movie! I can't wait! 😀

  25. LL says:

    I have a feeling this film will be successful, no matter what the doubts may be. Let's just keep it in prayer and hope that God will do something great with this film!!

  26. Talvi says:

    "So, in closing, the filmmakers of Voyage need to shift away from Lucy and Edmund. Yes, they have interesting story lines, but Eustace is the future of this franchise, and if they alienate him as a character to placate the movie fans, rather than the book fans, I’m afraid that this franchise may sink."
    I don't know, I don't really agree with this statement. I love Narnia as a whole, but the Pevensies were always always always my favorite. I liked the books that they weren't in, but not nearly as much. =( and I hope I don't get ganged up on or anything, but I never really liked Eustace's character… I just never have. Personally, I sincerely hope they give the Pevensies their due. I'm sad that there are only two left now, but I hope they at least get an acceptable good-bye… *cries* at the end of this movie I'm going to be so sad, I'm going to miss the Pevensies until last battle,but even that extremely sad at the end…
    =( *hugs her copies of LWW and PC*
    wow that sounds all sad and stuff. I am REALLY excited for the Voyage, don't get me wrong! and I will always love Narnia. <3

    • Reepicheep, Knight of Narnia says:

      I agree with you, Talvi! The Pevensies, especially Edmund and Lucy, have always been my favorites. I never really liked Eustace very much. I guess he's a lot like Edmund, but he's just a shadow of what Edmund's like. He went from not quite so bad as Edmund to not near as good. Even after he turned for the better, he still was just in the background. SC is told more from Jill's point of view, and LB is told from Tirian's. They just can't cut Edmund and Lucy short! I hope they have the scene with Edmund and Eustace after Eustace turns back into a boy. After Edmund believing Lucy about Aslan in PC, that's my favorite part of the whole series!

      • Talvi says:

        You're right, Eustace is similar to Edmund in the way he goes from bad to good… except like you said, he never even gets close to being as good as Edmund. Edmund is my favorite Pevensie, though it's an extremely hard choice between him and Lucy. <3
        *crosses her fingers* I hope the Dawn Treader does well… and I REALLY hope the Pevensies are truly in it. I'm going to miss them. :'(

      • Authiel Saethwr says:

        The Pevensies are my favorite, but I like Eustance because he is so like how Jack Lewis described himself in "Surprised by Joy" as a kid: priggish, know-it-all, helpless martyr of everyone else. And then he met Aslan…

  27. JO says:

    I think the main failing with Prince Caspian was that Narnia didn't have the "magic" that it had in the first film. The waking of the trees and Aslan's roar in Prince Caspian was a major moment in the book, but in the movie the trees are just, well, moving trees. There is no "joy" with the waking of the trees in the film Prince Caspian. The most important moments in Dawn Treader are Eustace's transformation (from boy to dragon and from dragon to new boy) and Aslan's country. If those two things don't come out well, then Narnia (this film series) is done. I hope they get them right! (The rest of the book has great moments also, but if those two things aren't done right, then the rest is tainted [along with the future potential films which involve Eustace]).

    • bdog1984 says:


      • GlimGlum says:

        Yes, Prince Caspian is darker but there was also the magic of the trees [i]from the book[/i] as JO pointed out. And I think PC could have benefited from a bit more of that. (IMHO) 🙂

      • Lady Galadriel says:

        You call the children being chased by wolves and Aslan being killed on the Stone Table with all the gruesome creatures "lollipops and rainbows"?

        :O =))

      • JO says:

        Yes, it is darker, UNTIL Aslan roars! (which is my point)

    • ChristProclamer says:

      I agree with you. My favorite moment from PC (one of my top favorite moments in the whole series) was the epic moment when Aslan roars and it echoes all across the country even to the Giants at Harfang. In the movie, there was none of that. Aslan was gone and the magic of his return was gone. If Aslan and the magic of Eustace's transformation are not properly present, I will be sorely disappointed and very worried.

    • wolfloversk says:

      I LOVED the trees! (Granted this is coming from a nature lover) it was the best part in the whole movie, especially when one tree destroyed the catapult, remember it was Aslan, the river, and the trees that won the battle. I'll admit I did imagine them as people when I first read the book, but I like the movies trees better there more realistic, yet at the same time more magical and more powerful.

    • glumPuddle says:

      The whole point of the movie (and the book) is that the magic of Narnia is gone. The Telmarines have driven it out. The essence if the story is the sadness of the old days being gone, and the hope that they might return. If PC did have the same magical feeling as LWW, I would strongly criticize it.

      • ChristProclamer says:

        I agreeone of the main pionts in PC is that the magic is gone. But the problem with the PC movie is that the magic never *really* came back for a lot of us.

  28. Mirima Rosetrader says:

    I'm so excited there is only one more year of wait! I'm a little nervous about the movie, but I'm keeping an open mind. I've been praying every day since I heard it could be a possibility that the would be no Silver Chair, for VDT to do good in the box office. I hope many others have too. I dearly hope that He answers our prayers. Scenes I'm especially looking forward to in the movie are Caspian, Lucy, Edmund and Eustace being captured by Pug (I love capture scenese), Nightmare Island and Eustace's transformation to dragon and back to human. I hope they do those scenes really well, especially Nightmare Island. I have a pretty good picture of it and I hope they do it close to how I picture it. I hope it sends a shiver down my spine. All in all I cannot wait for VDT to sail into the theaters! Long live Aslan!

  29. Lucy of Narnia says:

    DiGoRyKiRkE's comment about the Pevensies is very interesting to me. That could very well be true, but I hope they don't have Edmund and Lucy do less than in the book, especially Edmund, because he does so little already. I think that what they should do is something like this. At the end, where they're talking to Aslan, they should steal SC's ending lines a little. When Aslan tells Edmund and Lucy that they are to never come back to Narnia, and Lucy says "It's not Narnia, it's you. We shan't meet you there.", they should have Aslan tell them that they will come back to his country some day, and that time they'll never have to leave. That would practically be a promise on the movie-makers' part that Edmund and Lucy, at least, will appear in some future Narnia movie, encouraging those who have never read the books to see the next movies.

  30. narnia fan7 says:


  31. EdmundPevensie says:

    I definitely think there is more we fans can do than just sit back and wait; we can (and should)pray! If we start praying for the movie now, we'll have a whole year for God to do some amazing things 🙂 And don't forget to be positive! I am so excited about this movie and I understand that a little optimism goes a long way 🙂 Further up and further in!

  32. Lstc3ltacorn says:

    The Top pictire of The Dawn Treade is awesome!!!

  33. 220chrisTian says:

    Yes! Great! Um, does anyone else not like Ben and Skandar's looks in the top photo? I prefer them in PC. lol But I prefer Georgie's look here. I agree with DiGoRyKiRkE that getting the audience interested in Eustace's character will be critical for the franchise. No more Pevensies. 🙁 Well, unlike Starkat, I got pulled into PC after just one viewing. 😉

    • wolfloversk says:

      If you mean the way ben has a beard and looks so much older than he did in PC, I'm actually glad of that. He's supposed to be three years older, while the pensevies were only supposed to be one year older. I was worried a lot last year because I couldn't figure out how they were gonna make Caspian look old enough. I'm glad to see that they pulled it off, somehow.

      • tenthofthatname says:

        The problem for me is the beard adds more than 3 years to his appearance in my opinion. It looks like it adds…five? Six? I don't mind if they also age Caspian up to his early 20s though.

  34. Spare-oom says:

    I hope they market it as the wonderful adventure that it is. Plus, I'm watching this one for Reepicheep. He's one of my favorite characters from Narnia. On to Aslan's Country!

  35. What many seem to have forgotten, or don't realize, is that while TLTWATW did good box office, it was strongly disliked by a large percentage who went to see it, and walked away feeling it was a kiddie film for the religious right that was played safe, with marginal special effects, marginal acting and weak direction. And many fans of the book felt it was a tepid adaptation with some cringe-worthy moments (the fox, Santa Clause, the soundtrack). I wasn't alone in feeling the cartoon adaptation was far stronger.

    Adamsom improved his game tremendously by PC in several ways, infusing Narnia with more character and pathos, and following the book's darker themes. I also think his need to create a more in-depth story worked well, and the acting and effects were all improved.

    But the marketing didn't establish that such was the case, and many of those who were disappointed by TLTWATW (book fans who felt the magic wasn't there and non-book fans who thought it was a kiddie flick with a Jesus angle) didn't bother to go see PC, especially as it was wedged in-between films that audiences felt wouldn't pander to little kids from fundamentalist households.

    The idiots at marketing have to pay attention to more than just a film's box office. If Disney had, they'd have not released it next to such intense competition, and the trailers would've presented a very different impression that didn't look like "TLTWATW: More of the Same (Now with Extra Action and a Teen Idol for the girls!)".

    VOTDT has a chance to reignite the franchise IF they create a film that follows the book's themes, is written and directed by people who love the source-material and are willing to let the film be as strange and wonderful as it should. And the marketing "geniuses" need to approach this as an adventure/fantasy film that isn't "color by numbers".

    Genre fans have grown weary of the cliches in fantasy films. "Fellowship of the Ring", "Pan's Labyrinth" and "Where the Wild Things Are" prove that fantasy films don't have to be formulaic or cartoonish to do well.

  36. HighQueenofNarnia says:

    You have to remember that VOTDT was written from Lucy's point of view, not Eustace's- (of course barring the journaling that Eustace does for about three or four pages.) No one wants to watch a movie where the main character is a jerk. So maybe they could have Eustace gradually take over the movie after he is undragoned. Also, as VOTDT is the most popular book in the series, I think that it will do well even if it doesn't meet everyone's expectations. PC didn't make as much money because the producers made people place themselves in Peter's shoes to understand his actions. Most people do not want to do that- they just want to watch the movie. Hopefully the producers will not make the same mistake this time around. So- good luck to VOTDT and God's blessings to all!

  37. gadisnarnia says:

    I really like Narnia series.. Hope VDT would be better than PC so all the Narnia series can be filmed…
    By the way, does anyone know who is the cast of Ramandu's daughter??? Is she British too?

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