Confirmed: Walden is Talking With Fox About Making The Magician’s Nephew
Dekkie attended NRB’s Sunday Super Session in Nashville today and has posted the following report which confirms that Walden is leaning toward making The Magician’s Nephew next.
Michael Flaherty just confirmed that Walden was talking with Fox about the Magician’s Nephew.
I just got back from attending NRB’s Sunday Super Session in Nashville, TN, where Flaherty and Simon Swart from Fox spoke about “Connecting with Audiences in an Age of Distraction.” And Narnia, of course. A few noteworthy tidbits:
When asked by Phil Cooke of Cooke Pictures and host of this session if Walden would make any more Narnia movies, Flaherty responded, without hesitation: “Yes. We are talking to Fox about making the Magician’s Nephew next.” The audience clapped. He then mentioned that there was some debate about whether SC or MN should be next, and asked the audience to clap for their favorite. A few (including myself, loudly) clapped for SC, but the majority cheered for MN.
Flaherty also referred to Gresham as “the CS Lewis Cop,” and talked about when the production team would wonder what Lewis thought of something, Gresham would say something like about how once he was having dinner with Jack and he said that if there ever was a movie made it would have to include such and such. Flaherty, laughingly, added that he wondered how many of those stories actually happened.
Phil Cooke talked about the time he was at the first screening of the VDT trailer, 20 minutes after the trailer was shown, he received a notification on his phone from Google about all these Narnia sites having detailed reports about the trailer. “These people are crazy.” I laughed – because we are.
Flaherty gave a “huge, heartfelt thankย you” to the audience for their support of the film, saying that many thought the franchise was “dead” after PC. He seemed pleased and not worried that VDT made “only” $100 million domestically.
Swart also talked about how excited Fox was to be able to pick up the franchise: “We get a shot at Narnia?” and saying that they “jumped in with both feet in.”
Michael Flaherty just confirmed that Walden was talking with Fox about the Magician’s Nephew.Thanks to Dekkie for the report!
I agree, reepicheeps archer ๐
Forgot to mention that the news is in the 4th paragraph from the bottom. Again, the link is: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/rango-nabs-no-1-at-164819
Woohoo!
Character profile of 'White Witch' in Paul F. Ford's 'Companion to Narnia'
Does not include all the footnotes
Part 1 of 3
"White Witch
As the White Witch of LWW, she is responsable for the hundred years of winter that falls on Narnia; as Jadis of MN, she is the possesor of the Deplorable Word.
The two are one and the same: characterizations of evil that cannot really be killed, but must be watched for, and confronted over and over again. According to M. Beaver, the White Witch is the offspring of a giant, and the demon Lilith. She is bad through and through, and she is especially villainous because she looks human, but has not a drop of human blood in her.
When Lewis was writing LWW, he had not yet conceived of MN; thus, although he strives mightily to blend the two characterizations, there are loose ends and unanswered questions.
We are told that the tree of protection will keep the witch out of Narnia as long as it flourishes; meanwhile, she has fled to the north, 'growing stronger in dark magic'.
But by the time of LWW, she has managed not only to gain entrance into Narnia, but she has succeeded in gaining enough power over it to hold it in the enchantement of winter without end.
This would imply that the Tree of Protection has either weakened, or died, or been circumvented in some other way, or that Jadis has become such a master of the dark arts, that she is able to overcome the tree's effects.
All this must remain speculation, however, because we are never told what happened.
Another question that arises is how an inhuman witch became the last of a long line of kings and Queens of Charn, when those kings and queens were all humans. Lewis's description of the royalty Digory and Polly encounter frozen in position in the great hall of Charn is meant quite obviously to show the progression of corruption that occured in this line, from kindness to cruelty to despair to depravity, culminating in the most evil of all, Jadis herself.
This corruption is only possible in human beings, as nonhumans ( especially the combination of giant and demon) may be assumed to be bad from the start. "
Part 2 of 3
"The White* Witch
She is the self proclaimed Queen of Narnia, and she is determined to kill the sons of Adam, and daughters of Eve who's thrones, according to the prophecies, are already waiting in Cair Paravel.
She rides ina sleigh driven by a dwarf and pulled by white raindeer, and she herself is dressed in white fur to her neck. She wears a gold crown, and carries a gold wand.
Her face is deathly pale, and her mouth is crimson.
Edmund thinks her beautifull but stern.
She has imposed winter without end on Narnia, and that world is blanketed with white, killing snow.
That she is evil is indesputable: she has no conscience and no scruples, and will do anything that is in her advantage.
She entraps poor Edmund with the sweet seduction of Turkish Delight; she turns Narnians into stone statues that decorate her courtyard; and she sends a pair of wolves to kill the Beavers and the children.
Her worst and most unforgivable offence, of course is her slaying of Aslan at the Stone Table, during which she endevors to drive him even deeper into despaire by boasting that he has given her Narnia forever, lost his own life, and not saved Edmund after all.
Here, however, she shows the vanity that is in the end her undoing.
She assumes that, like her, everyone else lacks a conscience and scruples–and if they do not, then they are fools. In believing she can control everything, she blinds herself to other possibilities.
But her knowledge only goes so far: she knows the Deep Magic, but Aslan knows the Deeper magic. Her army consists of all the worst animals and most ghastly creatures of dreams and nightmares, including bats, wolves ghouls, and hags.
Aslan's army, powered by the newly freed narnians,
overcomes thies beastly apparitions and the witch herself is killed by Aslan**.
*The usual meaning of 'white witch' as one who practices white magic ( good magic in which the Devil in not invoked ) is not the meaning Lewis intends. Here white is used as the color of death, the time of winter when nothing can grow and good people are 'frozen', prevented from overcoming the evil that holds them all in thrall.
The stage is thus set for the coming of spring, and the rebirth of nature brought by Aslan"
**In PC the hag informs Doctor Cornelius that the White Lady ( her name for the White Witch) is alive and may be called upon for help.
Lewis might be suggesting that, though dead herself, the white witch's evil spirit is able to live on
by means of the dark magic."
Next, part 3 of 3 : Jadis
MN seriously? It sounds anti-climatic to have a prequel now. If they want to finish it right, they ought to make SC and LB.
You may like MN and HHB, IMO they wouldn't add to story. MN would only make people think "Desperate", and "They just want to do a Narnia "Hobbit".
What about epicness I thought that was Hollywood aim… What could possibly be more epic than LB! It's the perfect ending… Plus it would create lot's of debate… Meaning: Free advertising
"He seemed pleased and not worried that VDT made 'only' $100 million domestically."
This made me happy. ๐
Boy I can just picture the seen of Narnia's creation already. I hope go along with what the book described: "Out of the trees wild people stepped forth, gods and goddesses of the wood: with them came Fauns and Satyrs and Dwarfs. Out of the river rose the river god with his Naiad daughters."
To be honest, I hope they depict centaurs and giants being created along as well. I'm surprised that with the centaurs and giants being absent in MN that it hasn't been raised to question.
Once more an interesting write-up. ๐
Thanks for your efforts. ๐
So it seems Ford suggests the possibility that The White Witch's demonic spirit lives on eternally. And why should it not? Not only was she the original "seed of evil" in Narnia, and its Satan, but even evil persons have an immortal soul.
"In PC the hag informs Doctor Cornelius that the White Lady ( her name for the White Witch) is alive and may be called upon for help. Lewis might be suggesting that, though dead herself, the white witchโs evil spirit is able to live on by means of the dark magic"
I wonder if the movie(s) production team used this book?
It seems to directly suggest the eternal presence of her spirit, and thus, supports her inclusion in "Prince Caspian" and "Voyage of the Dawn Treader" on Dark Island.
Of course, my theory is that Dark Island was her final defeat. It seemed like when her Green Mist ghost was torn to shreds, that was the complete end of her. That's just my reading of the scene. Probably a discussion for another day.
I am fine with whatever movie they make next just as long as they keep making them but I am a little sad that they are skipping the Silver Chair. I do like the book although it is a little creepy in some places. But I think they will do a wonderful job on the Magiciain's Nephew as long as they stick to the book. It is a pretty exciting book. I mean, like they get to hang out with Jadis, the White Witch and ride a pegasus and Uncle Andrew gets planted and watered by an elephant…It's pretty full of adventure. Not anything like the first three with their swords fights and battles though. But I think it will be good. I can't wait to see it.
You're right, Stephen Barnhouse, Apted was just not the right director for VDT. We need a new director and new screenwriters. My choice for director would be Mike Newell. I would be happy if Andrew Adamson came back, though. Guillermo Del Toro would make an interesting MN, but it would be too dark. My dream director would be Steven Spielberg, but that's not going to happen. A lot of people would like Peter Jackson, but he'll be working on The Hobbit for the next three years. As far as screenwriters go, my choice would be Michael Goldenberg, who did the 5th Harry Potter and the 2003 film version of Peter Pan. By the way, for those of you who think that he would not be good because of his HP5 adaptation, that was Yates' fault. Yates cut out 45 minutes from the final movie.
As far as SC versus MN goes, I would like to see SC. It is a much easier book to translate to film. The fact is, SC has exactly what the the VDT screenwriters were going for in VDT: a straight foward, object oriented plot. SC would be much easier for children to understand. The plot is just, "Okay, we have to find this lost prince and we have signs to help us". MN is much more unpredictable and less relatable for the audience. I think SC would be a bigger box office success because of this. It will be much more understandable and entertaining for children. The biggest factor, however, in how much money the film makes is how good it is. This is something that studios do not seem to understand. You can make a film for a specific market all you want, but you have to make a good film. Think about it, it is December, you are a casual moviegoer and you want to see a movie. Your local theater has three movies playing, Narnia and two others. You go on Rotten Tomatoes. Narnia has a 48% rating and the other two have 80% ratings. What are you going to see? Narnia? I didn't think so. The better a movie is, the better reviews it gets, the more people go to see it. It's that simple. This is proven by the fact that each subsequent Narnia film has gotten worse reviews and each subsequent Narnia film has made less money.
To those who feel that fans are being too negative about the Narnia films: We have every right to feel negative about the films. Think about it, so far we have gotten three films, each released 2 and a half years after each other, which means endless waiting. Only one of them has been a great film and a good adaptation(LWW). The other two were average films and terrible adaptations. They have been dissapointing financially and fans have had to deal with questions about whether the franchise will even continue, let alone whether the remaining films will be any good. Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings, the two other major book/movie fantasy series have been much more successful, both artistically and financially. The Narnia books are on the same level as these other two series. We deserve the same quality that they get. The Rotten Tomatoes rating for the LOTR series is 94%. For HP it is 83%. For Narnia it is 64%. The highest grossing Narnia film has still grossed less than the lowest grossing HP or LOTR films. Narnia fans have every right to be negative because the films are not nearly as good as they could be. I think, assuming they make MN, that if it makes less than 500 million worldwide, they will not make any more films after MN. I think the best time to release MN would be either summer 2012 or March 2013. If it was released Winter 2012 it will have to be sandwiched in between The Hobbit and Breaking Dawn part 2. This will leave it ignored by teenagers, which is a key market(perhaps THE key market). March is a great movie time because the Oscars have just happened and so everyone is thinking about movies. Last year Alice in Wonderland and How to Train Your Dragon were both released in March. These were both family movies and both had fantastic results at the box office. This year, Rango(great movie, by the way), the new Gore Verbinski(director of Pirates of the Caribbean) animated film, with Johnny Depp, was just released, and I'm sure we'll see that racking up the $$$. Overall, Fox needs to put together a great trailer and promote it intensely. The VDT trailers were terrible. Honestly, if I weren't a Narnia fan, I would have just thought "Lame". Trailers really do sell a movie.
Overall, I'm dissapointed that we are not getting SC next. I think it is one of the most cinematic of the books and, handled by a competent director and screenwriter, could be a truly great film. This jumping around in the chronology is not good news. I am excited for MN though, particularly because the filmmakers sound excited about it. If Andrew Adamson directs and is excited and passionate about the story, like he was with LWW, I think we could have the second great film in the Narnia series.
I think MN would be great (as long as they can make it without putting a battle in it)! I do agree though that it would be a shame to wait until Will was too old to keep playing Eustace in VDT. Maybe they could do two at once ๐
I like Silver Chair a lot too, and I feel sure they will end up doing it.
I think the producers feel the best bet to make as many of the movies as possible, is to use MN as a 'sling-shot'…
'Of course, my theory is that Dark Island was her final defeat. It seemed like when her Green Mist ghost was torn to shreds, that was the complete end of her. Thatโs just my reading of the scene. Probably a discussion for another day.'
An interesting idea…
I may be wrong, but if the writers of the movie ( VDT ) followed Lewis' description of the Dark Island, it is the black magic of the island itself that makes our dreams ( and nightmares ) come true.
So I would get the impression that it is the evil of the island that took on the shape of the White Witch, not actually supplying a 'vessel' for her spirit.
If this is the case, then only the Dark Island has been defeated ( defeated only by Aslan, in the book )
I agree that any soul will live forever–even evil ones…so the danger would have been to somehow use black magic to give her a some sort of body in PC ?
Paul F. Ford's 'Companion to Narnia'
Page 441, part 3 of 3 : Jadis
"Jadis is the queen of Charn, the last in a long line of kings and queens, who desires to gain power not only over her own world, but over as many worlds as possible.
Like the White Witch, she is pale and intense.
Unlike the White Witch, who is a broadly painted cardboard figure of wickedness, Jadis is more finely drawn.
She wears extravagant royal robes, bejeweled and embroidered and finer than those worn by any of the other queens in the great hall at Charn.
She rules over a dead city, having overcome her sister ( the former queen ) with the ultimate weapon, the Deplorable Word, which she learned at a great cost to herself.*
Like the White Witch she also deals in sweet seductions–the maddening verse on the pillar
'causes' Digory to strike the golden bell, and it's sweet tone lets Jadis loose upon the world once more.
In England, Jadis is truly a vision. In that world, she is larger than life, a vision of pure energy on the drab London pavement.
Her power, which is sapped by the timeless air of the Wood between the Worlds, is intensified in our world, and she is able to wrench an iron bar from the lamp-post outside the Ketterley residence.
That she is a figure of evil is indesputable ( witness her selfish destruction of the inocent people of Charn; her merciless beating of Strawberry; her guided tour of the castle, in which she points out to Digory and Polly her favorite spots–the dungeons, the principale torcher chambers, and the site of a great and arbitrary slaughter by her grandfather; and her knowledge of the Deplorable Word )
But she is also an occasion for laughter, and the butt of jokes. Her behavior at the lamp-post is outlandish and causes the onlookers to conclude that she is insane; Sarah the maid finds it most exciting.
The image of Jadis holding on to Jill's hair as they reenter the Wood between the Worlds is painfull, but it also serves to make Jadis seem ridiculous and childish.
Perhaps her most frightening attribute is her desire to come into our world, and her assumtion that magicians are the ruling class here as well as in Charn.
Once she meets Uncle Andrew, she ceases to notice Digory at all, and Lewis comments parenthetically that 'most wiches are like that. They are not interrested in things or people unless they can use them; they are terribly practical.'
Finally she is a symbol to Lewis of the inevitability of the chaos begun by the impersonal experimentation of our technological society.
*This is a parallel to uncle Andrew, who ruined his health by becoming a magician ( 'One doesn't become a magician for nothing' ) it is one of several intentional parallels that Lewis makes in order to impress upon the reader his belief that the quiet violations of natural law in the privacy of a scientists laboratory are the same as, and lead to, the ultimate violations of the sacredness of life practiced by Jadis and other unscrupulous rulers"
I'm getting this Paul F. Ford book. It is much too much fun. ๐
I wonder how Tilda will interpret Jadis in the movie? I personally picture her wearing less (or no) jewelry. What I picture is essentially The White Witch's battle dress, only perhaps, with full-on red hair instead of blonde. She would not likely be wearing Aslan's fur either (obviously). Perhaps some other rich fur trapping, or maybe necklaces will go here.
As Tilda had some unspoken difficulty with the Alexander McQueen-inspired ice dresses, I think it would be wise to stick with the lighter chainmail garbs. To me, this was the most Charn-like piece in her wardrobe. Also, it was made lighter for freedom of movement, which Tilda will certainly need at various points in "MN."
There are a number of fashion options still available to her. Different colors of mail are possible, certainly. At one point, Jadis may have one of gold links. At another, she may have one of blue, and then of course, silver. I wonder if green would be possible, as that might look all the more "alien."
I know that if Isis returns for costume, she will definitely do something special with Tilda. And why pass up the chance? Tilda is great at wearing some oft-times odd fashions.
Now we come to the question of Jadis's character. She is so dramatic in the book ("Lead on, Slave!!," etc…) that it is difficult not to laugh at her. But I can pretty much guess right now that Tilda Swinton will play her more seriously. I could be wrong. I mean, Tilda can be funny. But her approach of Jadis is always one of inhuman coldness. I think this approach is necessary for the feature film. It will make the witch more of a threat to the Londoners than a joke…. but OH! Can you imagine her fury when they do laugh at her?? Oh, she will own them!! I can't wait. ๐
As to the above resurrection discussion, we will never know how the ritual would have ended (thanks to Edmund). I believe that, had the "Adam's blood" made contact, the ice would have simply peeled back as it did around her hand, and she would have been made new. Her wand would likely have been made new too by the ice on the floor. Wild speculation might be she would have emerged as either herself or The Green Lady. But that's kind of… out there.
I don't believe she was alive in the ice. What we saw was either her immortal soul or some kind of vision of what was to come. Clearly we were peering into a kind of empty Hell. On the commentary, Andrew Adamson described her as being trapped alone in a kind of underwater world or something. Hell for Jadis appears to be emptiness. If you look back, it kind of makes sense. In Charn, she was the only thing left. In LWW, her ice castle was empty and cold. In death, her soul is left utterly alone for all time in a frozen place not unlike the winter she herself created. This is a strange sort of justice, really. Hers is a high and lonely destiny, indeed.
It is interesting also to note that in PC and VDT, both times, Jadis offered forth her hand. First to make contact with the life-giving blood, second to secure Edmund's surrender to temptation. Is there any connection? We'll never know and can only wildly speculate.
What would have happened if Edmund "took her hand" ? Would her promises come true? Probably not. Would she have lived again? Who knows. Dark Island's plan was the corruption of the world, not necessarily the destruction of it. Of course, corruption breads destruction. ๐
i totally agree with you! i love the horse and his boy!but i think that now they've started to use will the have to stick with him and just move Jill's age up. but you know im totally fine with whatever they do as long as they keep doing them
Hey fellow fans!!! Listen up, I had a interesting idea. Everybody seems pretty grumpy that the movies are not going with the books as much as they should. So let's do something about it! If you as a Fan of the books and movies want the movies to go at least 90% with the books…
Say I!!!!!!
Let's make the Fox and Walden hear us!!!
Come one lets say
I!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TOTALLY, TOTALLY, TOTALLY agree with the Tilda Swinton comment. Somehow they've decided they need to keep making the stories that would use her. But then, why couldn't they have her be the lady of the green kirtle and do some CGI effect that would make her look a little different. I mean, Lewis even said that she and the White Witch were of the same kind, basically. I'm really wanting to see who Puddleglum is played by too! I think they should use Hugh Laurie, but I think he's too big of an actor in America now for them to use him. I also think that Brannaugh and Martin Short are awful choices for Uncle Andrew. He does really need to be played by someone that can be pathetically slimy, and not just plain silly or overacted, which is how those men would play him.
I also really care about them following the books CLOSER THAN THEY HAVE SO FAR !
I !!!!!
Though I don't care about the order, if the compromise means as many movies as possible.
90 % sounds very reasonable, but they can play with that…
Do you think the best thing would be to come up with a LIST of specific details, everyone agrees they CAN'T leave out ?
That would be a lot more embarrassing to ignore…
and easy to follow.
We have a while to work on this list, and argue over it…at best they could listen, at worst we will have had the fun of a 'good jaw about Narnia'
Wow some really interesting points !
Yes, you should get the book: the way it is cross-referenced, is a lot more interesting that what I wrote…
Wow, I can't beleive you where so fast to get this on NarniaWeb! Haha. I too attended NRB and I was really happy to be able to hear Michael Flaherty speak along with all those other guys! I thought it was funny how he talked about movie critics, especially eight-year-old homeschooled Narnia fans! I was like, "try teaching a whole class of those!" haha.
YESSS!!!….finally!!
Well I do want to see Horse And His Boy as well (a million times more than Last battle or ever wanted Caspian, thought the movie's inclusion of the white witch ressurection scene and the Miraz' castle scene made it far better), but not before Silver Chair and Magican's Nephew. It wouldn't make sense to anyone before Silver Chair, and The Magican's Nephew seems have more in favor. It's too bad they didn't do it second, but you can't blame the studio for going with one chronical style over the other. (with Magicans Nephew first and Horse And His Boy third, rather than as 5 and 6)
At this point I would stop worrying about them not getting to do it. Like Silver Chair and Magican's Nephew, people have spoken about Horse And His Boy a lot too, much more so than Last Battle. With Dawn Threader hitting 400mil, I see no reason to worry. This series is a million miles away from being over.
Some number projections (order of first two doesn't matter):
Silver Chair: 110-130mil budget, 350 mil box office finish
Magican's Nephew: 110-130 budget, 375 mil box office finish
Horse And His Boy (as 6): 100-120 buget, 320 box office finish
I do expect the numbers to be like that for many reasons, mainly book popularity, relations to Jadis (obviously a box office score), previous characters (Will Poulter/sequel to Dawn Threader), versus a different story entirely (Shasta being introduced others only shown near the end). I could be wrong though-if they got the actors back to play Susan and whatnot, it could do much better, especially if the movie gave them bigger roles. This is obviously a somewhat unpredictable franchise. At some point "Dawn Threader" was announced to a bomb. Definitely not!
More of the silly note Dawn Threader bombings. It's made more money than Tron: Legacy on a 30mil lower budget! In your face stupid Disney, who dropped a super-franchise! It's also a "take that!" to other contenders like The Hobbit, or the never-happening sequel to The Golden Compass called "The Subtle Knife."
I love narnia… like love love… I love the books, and I enjoy it when the movies come out… I am looking forward to whatever they make next. My only worry is that most movie goers these days don't read the books, and their connection to the movies would have been the Pevensies. They would go oh oh I love the Pevensies! When VDT came out I knew people that were tossing up the idea of going to see it because Peter and Susan weren't in it anymore. So whatever movie comes out next people are just going to say there is no point in seeing this movie because the 4 main kids arn't in it. Which is sad becuase this is the chronicles of Narnia not the chronicles of the Pevensies. Don't get me wrong I love them too, but when VDT came out I wasn't at all dissapointed that Peter and Susan wern't going to be there, I was just extremely excited that Eustace was going to be there! But the people that havn't read the books wouldn't have even known who Eustace was, so they didn't care, and that's probably going to be the same with the next one. They have just gotten to attached. I am extremely looking forward to the next movie, even though my favourite character is Edmund and I know he's not going to be in it… Edmund has had his turn, and I accept that… I just can't wait to see Polly, Digory and JILL!!! Again the people who havn't read the books don't really care, so something really different has to stand out about the next movie that is going to make people want to care. I think it would be a great idea to have a well known actor play one of the characters like Johnny Depp, because that way people will go to see the movie just to see that actor, and it will make the movie money, and they will keep making them. I don't really care though, all I know is I'm gonna go see the next movie… even if no one else wants to!
Same here! I would love to see MN done because I have never seen it in any version adn i think it would be interesting. But didn't it seem like they where leading up to SC in the end of VDT when Eustace's mom said that Jill Pole was waiting for him? So, that kinda made me think they where going to do SC, but oh well.
"LWW" was adapted extremely well. ๐
But I agree we should make a list and try to be more productive about what we want, rather than aimlessly complain. ๐
This is only off hand, but….
Two things they MUST include for me would have to be….
1.) I love the moment when Jadis listens to the song/music of the lion and understands it is a magic stronger and different than her own, and so says, "This is a terrible world, we must fly at once. Prepare the magic." I CAN NOT WAIT to see Tilda's face at this particular moment. I'm sure it'll be fantastic. Maybe the same kind of thing as her "Impossible" face, only with a lot more anger in it?
2.) The garden temptation of Digory. No question, this MUST be included, pretty much as close to the book as possible. I know Tilda could pull this off. We have seen her temptations in "PC" and "VDT" and they were extremely effective. Just put an apple in her outstretched hand and you've got a good start. ๐
I will one day compose a full list. This is all for now though. ๐
exactly!!!!! how can they say underworld did 2 sequels and then a prequel and narnia will do three movies and a prequel when there is really two prequels left
I agree with you on so many points; worries about not seeing beloved characters–but I felt the same when I read the book, but got to like the new characters right away: you see this should not be a problem if they produce a movie with a strong script, and likable characters…
Basically, if it's a good movie, people will want to see it
The producers, let's face it, are the ones who have been choosing mediocre script writers, and directors.
Narnia fans want better than mediocrity !!
These books mean so much to us, we want ( and these stories DESERVE ) the best
WHY DON'T THEY JUST DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME!!! THE SAME PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO BE IN BOTH MOVIES AND PLUS THEY DON'T NEED TO WASTE TIME!!! THE KIDS ARE GETTING OLDER AND OLDER…
There simply isn't enough money, I wager.
Otherwise, it's a great idea.
Just not possible.
Come on fans, say I!!! Were need to let Fox and Walden know that sixty percent with the book is (not going to cut!)
90% people!
Say!
I!!!!!!!
When they have made their minds about what book they think will bring in the cash, then please do not have the premiere screening around the same time as The Hobbit.
If I remember there was quite a bit of competition going between Peter Jackson's King Kong and Prince Caspian.
I think that they both will good. In second film was some great moments,VDT is really amazing,but first film is only good… Farnia,I read The Hobbit,and it was good. It won't be premiere Narnia in the same time! You can't know,when they'll start filming. But you can wait. Are you a girl? I'm clever girl! You're stupid. (sorry,but you aren't clever) You must think about it. Be carefully! Your words'll stay here forever. Remember.
EEK! HORRAY! ๐
Mayor Wilkins sais:
'Two things they MUST include for me would have to beโฆ.
1.) I love the moment when Jadis listens to the song/music of the lion and understands it is a magic stronger and different than her own, and so says, "This is a terrible world, we must fly at once. Prepare the magic." I CAN NOT WAIT to see Tildaโs face at this particular moment. Iโm sure itโll be fantastic. Maybe the same kind of thing as her "Impossible" face, only with a lot more anger in it?
2.) The garden temptation of Digory. No question, this MUST be included, pretty much as close to the book as possible. I know Tilda could pull this off. We have seen her temptations in "PC" and "VDT" and they were extremely effective'
I quite agree !
My list of things that must not be changed, off the top of my head ( will also surely think of more )
1.) The creation of life must look like it is a direct result of Aslan's voice, and the stars must join in the song, at the instant of their creation !
2.) A faithful, word for word account of the first face to face between Digory and Aslan
3.) The answer too the comment, that Aslan could have supplied them with food for the journey: ( paraphrased ) 'I think he likes to be asked'
We are making a list, 5 so far, Of the —'Elements we respectfully ask producers do not leave out of the MN movie'— who else wants to join in this list ?
Wouldn't John Cleese be perfect as Uncle Andrew ? He totally has the range:
Strong, scary ,dominant, sniveling, and hilarious. Very tall, as well.
You are close !
The competition was between LLW and King Kong–and LWW blew KK out of the water : )
My 'smily face' was cut in half !
This is crazy, but I'm praying they change their minds and make SC next. WILL POULTER IS 18. That should be enough reason to make it instead of MN next…
Perhaps if we pray, it should be for God's will to be done…
This forum has become like the end of a thunderstorm…you think the rage is ebbing away and you see a few rays of sun coming out, but then you hear more thunder, still rumbling from miles away… LOL
Although "The Magician's Nephew" is my favorite book in the series, I can't say I'm at all pleased to hear that it will be the next movie installment. Why go on to "The Magician's Nephew", especially if:
1) The Green Mist was made to tie "Voyage of the Dawn Treader" and "Silver Chair"
2) If Eustace asks Aslan if he will go back to Narnia and Aslan replies "Narnia may yet have need of you"
3) If you are going to introduce a new main character that is in more than one book in the series, than you should go on until they are dropped out of the picture
and 4) It's the most logical thing to do
In my mind's eye, I think this should be the order of making the movies:
"The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe", "Prince Caspian", "The Voyage of the Dawn Treader", "The Silver Chair", "The Last Battle", "The Magician's Nephew" and then "The Horse and His Boy".
The only reason "The Last Battle" is before "The Magician's Nephew" and "The Horse and His Boy" is because Will Poulter and the actress for Jill would be too old if they do it last.
I hope they know what they're doing, especially if Michael Apted is still a part of this…
John Cleese— what a wild and crazy–but inspired idea.
I could actually dig that. ๐
Ha ha ha ha, could you imagine Tilda with him? He he he he it tickles me.
"So! You would steal off back to your own world?"
"Yes, madam, I certainly would!" (paraphrased of course)
Oh, one more thing I would like to add….. Aslan crying on the subject of Digs' mother. But I do wonder how essential this might actually be. Then again, it is Aslan's sympathy for her that eventually wins Digory over. And the contrast between the false temptations and wickedness of Jadis to the genuine sympathy of the lion is certainly a stark contrast.
I would like some confirmation on what they are actually doing soon so we can put the debate of "which one" to bed. I have a STRONG feeling "MN" is next. But in my opinion, it will only work if Tilda Swinton comes back. Maybe they are waiting until she commits to the project?
People are making way too much of Will Poulter's age.
So what if he looks somewhat older? They can still make it work.
I still support MN all the way. It has NEVER been adapted into a film of any kind before.
I think MN deserves it. That said, I fully believe that Walden hopes to make all seven if profits allow it.
In a perfect world, they would make "The Magician's Nephew" and "The Silver Chair" in different locations at the same time. But there just isn't enough money, I guess.
I know the production team has always talked of making "MN" though.
They are likely more excited about this than "SC." To them, "MN" probably seems more likely to succeed at the box office.
1. Tilda Swinton. Undoubtedly the best villain they've got going for them. For many people, she was the best part of LWW. She is also an Oscar winner, which does add extra weight to the name. Lots of non-book readers are kind of fed up with her small ghost cameos. Not because they are tired of her, (frankly, how could you have "White Witch fatigue" because of a total of five extra minutes in the two sequels??? I think that's utter silliness, guys) but because they want her back full time and twice now they haven't gotten what they expected. MN gives them what they want, just in prequel form. Yes, the wide audience DOES want Tilda back full time.
2. Direct tie to the most successful film of the series (LWW)
3. Arguably more religious tone than "Silver Chair" (Creation story might appeal to more church groups)
4. Prequels are in. (Star Wars did it first, now we have X-Men and The Hobbit–success of these films aside, prequels are in)
I would have to say that if the franchise is to remain alive, it must re-ignite peoples awe and wonder in Narnia. The Magicians Nephew is just the book to do that. People who have never seen Narnia before would be able to take their children and (if done well) it could satisfy both. I also think, people who have never read the books would be curious to find out more about Narnia's origins. I would personally love a Silver Chair to be made next but from a financial point of view there is a better likelihood of both being made this way. On the point of Poulter's age. He is already 18, I dont believe he will change dramatically over the next few years. Though that all depends on how quickly they make The Magician's Nephew. I do believe Voyage of the Dawn treader was released at the perfect time of year. Christmas releases seems to demand less action to satisfy than summer releases, which would satisfy The Magician's Nephew's story.
Why no to the Harry Potter thing and make MN and then make SC to come out a few months later then do the last two books the same way! That builds interest!
I am an American, but Americans don't appreciate good movies like narnia! They want blood gore and filthy language and tons of sex! Unfortunately here in the USA, that's what they want!
Go Narnia!
through this whole journey, from when I first discovered LWW was in the works, I've tried to remain positive, hopeful, and optimistic. but if they decide on MN over SC, I think my last strand of optimism will snap. I feel like I'm watching a train wreck in slow motion. how do they plan to go back to Silver Chair once Will Poulter looks way older than VDT-Eustace? they can't afford to think in terms of one movie at a time–if they make MN next, how can the franchise possibly have any future? I almost feel like asking if this is some big joke or something–it just seems so ludicrous that they'd even consider shooting themselves in the foot like this. if it's because they want to bring the White Witch back for continuity… I'm no expert on movie-making (although I do have some experience in marketing), but it seems to me that Narnia's episodic nature is part of what makes it unique. it does not have a major overarching plot like LotR and it's not supposed to. the unique qualities of each story should be made to shine, not watered down. anyone in a creative profession knows that uniqueness is a huge asset, as long as you have the talent to pull it off, to sell the concept to the audience. besides, trying to create greater continuity between the movies hasn't exactly paid off for them.
While I'm very happy that they're discussing the possibility of another film, and I'd like to see MN made into a movie, I have to say that I'm one of those who would definitely like to see SC next. The end of VDT completely leads into SC, and it just seems odd to leave that film with that ending and then do a prequel next. And the main thing – Will Poulter needs to be Eustace, and if they do another movie first and take as long as they've been taking between the other films, he might not be able to pass in terms of age anymore (although he is already in his upper teens and probably won't go through any rapid growth spurts anymore, so oddly enough that could work to his advantage in that sense).
Oh yes the LWW and KK. All depends on what side of the planet one was. Me, Antarctica is just outside my back door
By the way thank you for the correction
Ohhhh I am shaking in my boots! The Hobbit movie officially starts shooting in 3-4 days time 21/03/11. Bang!bang!bang. Without any more interferences or delays. Hoping for a release date of the 1st film around December 2012. Did I type 2012 OHHHH! OMG SOMETHING BIG IS HAPPENING here is it the end of the world? another giant Tsunami? He's wondering if this writer is a girl? mmmmmm.
I will keep you guessing because I do not want to know your gender.
By the way if The Hobbit has openings for trolls you might like to apply
ํ ๋ ํ๊ตญ์ฌ๋์ธ๋ฐ…์์ด๊ฐ ์์ด๋ฆฌ์ด๋ ต๋ฐ!!!?/
Did someone dethrone you along the way!
I am so with you there!
If everybody doesn't want to see the next amazing film I'm still going to! ๐
Waaa Waaa Waaaaaaaa !!!!!!
I am also disapoointed that SC won't be next. However, in one way making MN is a smart move. The MN has as much if not more "magic" as the Lion, Witch & Wardrobe had. Everything literally comes to life and is born in the story…including the magic apple tree which is used to build the wardrobe. Furthermore, Jadis is one of the main characters. This will re build the excitement….some of which was lost after LW&W. THEN, this will give added momentum for the SC.
The ideal thing to do would be to start working on the SC at the same time or not too long after so Poulter doesn't age out.